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 Posted:   Sep 25, 2013 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

Was there a CD produced in the last several years that managed to sell virtually 0 copies?

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2013 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

Prison (Richard Band, Christopher L. Stone) sold 17 units, though not sure if that qualifies. razz

The Forgotten (Laurence Rosenthal) also seems to have sold rather poorly, considering it was released July 8th and then went out of print on August 12th - five weeks later.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2013 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Yeah, I don't think publishers are to eager to brag about their duds. wink

While both are still in print I wonder how well Troll in Central Park and Wizards did?
Both obscure releases, and only a handful of members bothered to comment in those threads.

Correction. Troll is OOP.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2013 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)


The Forgotten (Laurence Rosenthal) also seems to have sold rather poorly, considering it was released July 8th and then went out of print on August 12th - five weeks later.


Or it sold exactly the amount Intrada put out

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

All label leads have pointed out that they really can never say how a release will sell; some go faster than anticipated to (to the shock of those leads at times), others go slow (also to the shock of the leads).

Some recent (in the last few years) "dud" candidates (here "dud" referring to something that sold many fewer copies than anticipated by the label) would be STAR TREK TNG Volume 1 and SPARTACUS (MV commented off-hand in a thread that STTNG V1 didn't fly off the shelves as anticipated, and the box of SPART hung around for quite a period of time - I just checked, and heck, it's still available at a discount price of $87.99, so if you were interested, now might be the time to buy).

I'm sure other labels have had slow selling titles that were expected to move quicker than they did, and may be "duds" in their mind, but then again, the titles do eventually sell, so is anything really "a dud?"...

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

All label leads have pointed out that they really can never say how a release will sell; some go faster than anticipated to (to the shock of those leads at times), others go slow (also to the shock of the leads).

Some recent (in the last few years) "dud" candidates (here "dud" referring to something that sold many fewer copies than anticipated by the label) would be STAR TREK TNG Volume 1 and SPARTACUS (MV commented off-hand in a thread that STTNG V1 didn't fly off the shelves as anticipated, and the box of SPART hung around for quite a period of time - I just checked, and heck, it's still available at a discount price of $87.99, so if you were interested, now might be the time to buy).

I'm sure other labels have had slow selling titles that were expected to move quicker than they did, and may be "duds" in their mind, but then again, the titles do eventually sell, so is anything really "a dud?"...


I would like to add an addendum to TNG Vol 1 -- since we released OTHER Trek soundtracks TNG Vol 1 has done tremendously well and is on its way to selling out some time next year.

At first it was a disappointment, but 2 years later its proven to be a success. smile

Wish the same could be said about other projects (I'm looking at you ROCK 'N ROLL NIGHTMARE!)

wink

MV

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

In the case of TNG I’m wondering if it sold poorly, or just poorly compared to high expectations?

By comparison I wonder how DS9 did.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

In the case of TNG I’m wondering if it sold poorly, or just poorly compared to high expectations?

By comparison I wonder how DS9 did.


Great thus far. At that point a whole bunch of Trekkies discovered us due to TMP and TOS, as well as all of our TREK presence on the internet as well as conventions

While Trek V may have sold well for us, it was mainly Goldsmith and film score fans that picked up that cd upon release. In retrospect we should have done 10,000 units of Trek V and kept it in print on LLL. Matt and I just didn't feel comfortable duping people by saying it's a limited edition of 5000 units but since you guys bought them all out in 4 months we are gonna produce more. It kinda has that ANIMAL FARM ring to it -- "ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS." It just didn't feel right. It would be like saying all cds are limited, but some are LESS limited than others. We like to commit to a number and stay with it OR don't commit to a number at all. Make up your mind in the beginning and stick with it, that's our motto. That's why I respect what Intrada does because they did away with the limited number. We, like to stick with it as do other labels. If the title does well and sells out, walk away and let someone else have their turn with it. However, for every title that does well, there are 10 that don't. It's a tricky situation. That said, we're glad Intrada picked up the license so now non film score fans could enjoy Jerry's score in all its glory as well.

It wasn't until the release of TMP where ALOT of Trekkies discovered the label. Before that, GNP was the Trek label.

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

In the case of TNG I’m wondering if it sold poorly, or just poorly compared to high expectations?

By comparison I wonder how DS9 did.


Great thus far. At that point a whole bunch of Trekkies discovered us due to TMP and TOS, as well as all of our TREK presence on the internet as well as conventions

While Trek V may have sold well for us, it was mainly Goldsmith and film score fans that picked up that cd upon release. It wasn't until the release of TMP where ALOT of Trekkies discovered the label. Before that, GNP was the Trek label.

MV


And a great job you have done too. TMP is just such a perfect CD project, it looks nice, nice notes, and a whole lot of music. Likewise on V, terrific all around.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)


While Trek V may have sold well for us, it was mainly Goldsmith and film score fans that picked up that cd upon release. It wasn't until the release of TMP where ALOT of Trekkies discovered the label. Before that, GNP was the Trek label.

MV



TMP is truly a magnificent release. A great score coupled with a phenomenal presentation. It's my all time favorite score and I doubt if any label will ever top this release for me.

MV did you do some kind of big marketing push to get TMP on the fans' radar?

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

While Trek V may have sold well for us, it was mainly Goldsmith and film score fans that picked up that cd upon release. In retrospect we should have done 10,000 units of Trek V and kept it in print on LLL. Matt and I just didn't feel comfortable duping people by saying it's a limited edition of 5000 units but since you guys bought them all out in 4 months we are gonna produce more. It kinda has that ANIMAL FARM ring to it -- "ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS." It just didn't feel right. It would be like saying all cds are limited, but some are LESS limited than others. We like to commit to a number and stay with it OR don't commit to a number at all. Make up your mind in the beginning and stick with it, that's our motto. That's why I respect what Intrada does because they did away with the limited number. We, like to stick with it as do other labels. If the title does well and sells out, walk away and let someone else have their turn with it. However, for every title that does well, there are 10 that don't. It's a tricky situation. That said, we're glad Intrada picked up the license so now non film score fans could enjoy Jerry's score in all its glory as well.

It wasn't until the release of TMP where ALOT of Trekkies discovered the label. Before that, GNP was the Trek label.

MV


Thanks for posting this - it's nice to have an insight into things like this sometimes...

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2013 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   Paul Ettinger   (Member)



At first it was a disappointment, but 2 years later its proven to be a success. smile

Wish the same could be said about other projects (I'm looking at you ROCK 'N ROLL NIGHTMARE!)

wink

MV


I bought 3 copies of ROCK 'N ROLL NIGHTMARE! I heartily endorse this soundtrack and film! I was hoping for a soundtrack release of it's spiritual sequel ZOMBIE NIGHTMARE.

If you rent this tonight, you'll be buying the CD tomorrow ! And you'll never look at starfish the same again.

 
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