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i hate that holideck crap!*
a cheap way to make an ep when the writer's can't think of anything new>
i felt the same way about some of ST:TOS. to save money they wrote scripts around pre-existing sets: Ancient Rome, the wild west, Depressioon era NYC etc
brm
Those TOS episodes were done to dramatize Hodgkin's Law of Parallel Planetary Development. Everybody knows that.
it isn't even scientifically credible. Virtual reality & holograms do not have substance so you cant ride a horse etc
The Holodeck projected intersecting force fields to give its holograms "substance." And likewise the floor was actually a force field that gave the semblance of motion via a treadmill effect. It's all in the NEXT GEN Technical Manual. Maybe you need to read it again. 
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The Holodeck projected intersecting force fields to give its holograms "substance." And likewise the floor was actually a force field that gave the semblance of motion via a treadmill effect. It's all in the NEXT GEN Technical Manual. Maybe you need to read it again.
Likewise the Holodeck's weren't simply just a Holodeck, they also had replicators in them and certain substances would sometimes be replicated and you'd have the real deal.
I've read this in tech' before. This accounts for, for example, Wesley leaving a Holodeck soaking wet.
Other shows called this kind of holographic technology "hard light" (like "Red Dwarf"), where the holography is rendered substantive through some fantastical sort of technology, like the Trek tech' which, as pointed out, uses force fields.
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Thanks, Justin. Just to clarify, I was being facetious in taking it so seriously. But I am a fan of this stuff.
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i hate that holideck crap!*
a cheap way to make an ep when the writer's can't think of anything new>
i felt the same way about some of ST:TOS. to save money they wrote scripts around pre-existing sets: Ancient Rome, the wild west, Depressioon era NYC etc
brm
it isn't even scientifically credible. Virtual reality & holograms do not have substance so you cant ride a horse etc
Is it a somewhat cost effective writing trick, well, yes. Is that really such a bad thing? No. The problem of these shows is finding cost effective ways to get out of the bottle. The bottle shows were all self contained in the ship, and that can be limiting and less interesting, but the reason for bottle shows to some degree is that they much cheaper. The show was generally costing about $1 million per show, which was extremely expensive in that day. So it was not realistic to expect them to have adventures on a new alien world with new sets and effects every week, besides that they were turning a show around in about 7 days. So new sets, new effects every week are just not possible.
You should know though that the first real holodeck ep "The Big Goodbye" won a Peabody award. It is about telling stories, yes the deck is a story device to get them off the bridge and the corridors of the ship, and to tell stories and show characters playing at leisure. I think that it is a brilliant story device for showing the characters personal interests and fears, and much of it would not be very accessible, or easily written without the device of the holodeck.
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i hate that holideck crap!*
a cheap way to make an ep when the writer's can't think of anything new>
i felt the same way about some of ST:TOS. to save money they wrote scripts around pre-existing sets: Ancient Rome, the wild west, Depressioon era NYC etc
brm
Those TOS episodes were done to dramatize Hodgkin's Law of Parallel Planetary Development. Everybody knows that.
it isn't even scientifically credible. Virtual reality & holograms do not have substance so you cant ride a horse etc
The Holodeck projected intersecting force fields to give its holograms "substance." And likewise the floor was actually a force field that gave the semblance of motion via a treadmill effect. It's all in the NEXT GEN Technical Manual. Maybe you need to read it again.
Zap, stick with TITANIC - a subject you are mos def an expert on
LOL!
bruce
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The Holodeck's were recreational devices. We have recreational devices and toys today that cause injury when not working properly, but we don't stop using them all together.
Most the Holodeck incidents I recall from TNG, were unique sets of circumstances that brought on unusual operations of the Holodeck. The things didn't just ever, that I recall, go bad like it needed routine maintenance and started harming people -- there was usually some kind of outside interference. Except in the one occasion where a character was programmed in such a way that he became self aware -- the problem was he was a historically evil character, so naturally he wanted out. As I recall, that was Data's fault.
Come to think of it, think of the times Data has malfunctioned: he stole the Enterprise, he stabbed Troi, and other occassions. Maybe they should have deactivated Data.
Since there are multiple Holodeck's on the Galaxy class starship and we've seen at least one instance where it was occupied when a crew memeber went to one, it implies the nearly 2,000 member crew uses these things with regularity, meaning the track records is one of safety. And then you have to consider that other Galaxy class starships and other class starships also have Holodeck's, and that there's likely hundreds if not a thousand (if we included starbases, too) in operation every day in the Trek universe. Seems really safe to me.
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