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 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 11:07 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

After FSM's Release of THE HOMECOMING, the Waltons Series Pilot Movie so to speak, is it possible to get a release of Goldsmith's Scores from the 1st Season and Arthur Morton & Alexander Courage's additional scores? I think Goldsmith scored 6 or 7 Episodes and many after that were tracked with his cues and had original scores mainly by Morton and Courage.

I'd go for it!

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 11:10 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Unfortunately, Lukas has reported that all those tapes are long gone.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 11:41 PM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

Yes, supposedly Lorimar Productions, the producers of The Waltons, deliberately destroyed all of music contents of their storage vaults to save on space and expenses. There outta be a law.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 1:21 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Unfortunately, Lukas has reported that all those tapes are long gone.



Yeah, but maybe some of the composers may had some tapes left in theire privat collection.
Maybe some research in the estat of Goldsmith, Courage or Morton could be bring something on the light of the day. But someone have to reseach for it!

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 5:44 AM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

Personally, I'm hoping that Tadlow and Prometheus might consider this as a future title for their ongoing Goldsmith project.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

I think the best we can do is pick up the first season of THE WALTONS on DVD to get those Goldsmith scores - that's what I did...:-)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

One notable exception was Jerry Goldsmith's score for "Twilight's Last Gleaming", for which Joel Goldsmith kept the original master tapes (of which only a small portion is missing).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

I think the best we can do is pick up the first season of THE WALTONS on DVD to get those Goldsmith scores - that's what I did...:-)

Me too. I think I got the First Season Set that has all of the Original Goldsmith scored episodes for like $10.00

There was one particular episode about a young Jewish Boy and his coming of age Ceremony, I believe actually called "The Ceremony" where Goldsmith gave it a nice Jewish sounding score in his nice Jewish sounding score style.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 10:52 PM   
 By:   Krakatoa   (Member)

After FSM's Release of THE HOMECOMING, the Walton's Series Pilot Movie so to speak, is it possible to get a release of Goldsmith's Scores from the 1st Season and Arthur Morton & Alexander Courage's additional scores? I think Goldsmith scored 6 or 7 Episodes and many after that were tracked with his cues and had original scores mainly by Morton and Courage.

I'd go for it!



The Jerry Goldsmith scores for "The Waltons" would make a Beautiful re-recorded project!

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I found something just now, in regards to missing tapes.

I stumbled upon "Alexander Courage Collection", at rochester.edu.

Scope and Content:

The Alexander Courage Collection contains materials emanating from Courage's professional and personal activities. These include scores, scripts, sketches, notes and recordings for film and television productions (both Courage's original scores and his arrangements for other composers), arranged scores for pops orchestras and awards broadcasts, sheet music, personal papers, and photographs (both professional and personal). The scores in the collection are identified by type: conductor's scores (the short, or reduced, scores used by orchestrators and during recording sessions), manuscript scores, sketches, and lead sheets (melodic line with chord symbols). Many of the scores are annotated with arrangers' markings, composers' corrections, cuts, and references to the films.


I've bolded the relevent part. Now, the page is:
http://www.esm.rochester.edu/sibley/specialc/findaids/courage.htm


If you click on the one labeled "Recordings" (not to be confused with the one labled "Sheet Music"), you have a bunch of "Waltons" recordings:
http://www.esm.rochester.edu/sibley/specialc/findaids/courage3.htm#S5


So, it appears there are a bunch of tapes there. Did I stumble upon gold, or is just confusingly worded?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

I found something jsut now, in regards to missing tapes.

I stumbled upon "Alexander Courage Collection", at rochester.edu.

Scope and Content:

The Alexander Courage Collection contains materials emanating from Courage's professional and personal activities. These include scores, scripts, sketches, notes and recordings for film and television productions (both Courage's original scores and his arrangements for other composers), arranged scores for pops orchestras and awards broadcasts, sheet music, personal papers, and photographs (both professional and personal). The scores in the collection are identified by type: conductor's scores (the short, or reduced, scores used by orchestrators and during recording sessions), manuscript scores, sketches, and lead sheets (melodic line with chord symbols). Many of the scores are annotated with arrangers' markings, composers' corrections, cuts, and references to the films.


I've bolded the relevent part. Now, the page is:
http://www.esm.rochester.edu/sibley/specialc/findaids/courage.htm


If you click on the one labeled "Recordings" (not to be confused with the one labled "Sheet Music"), you have a bunch of "Waltons" recordings:
http://www.esm.rochester.edu/sibley/specialc/findaids/courage3.htm#S5


So, it appears there are a bunch of tapes there. Did I stumble upon gold, or is just confusingly worded?


Good work Zoob, this is at least worth investigating by those people in the business who have the means to do so.

Correction: My apologies everybody it is actually Justin Boggan who has made this great discovery and not our good friend Zooba!

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

ZOOB???

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Now just someone have to ask for those Waltons tapes, put some work on them and make them fit for a CD releasde.

Any label interested (aren `t there any Courage or Waltons fans at Kritzerland or Intrada maybe)?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

ZOOB???

Oh, my sincere apologies Justin, ha ha, what a silly mistake!!! It is you we should be thanking for this great discovery. Thank you so much, sorry about that error!!!

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Now just someone have to ask for those Waltons tapes, put some work on them and make them fit for a CD releasde.

Ah, the word "just." If only it were so easy.

Assuming these are tapes of the scores (as Justin, a.k.a. Zoob, says, it's a bit confusing), and assuming they're complete (a lot seem to be individual reels) and in decent condition (a big if), rights issues remain.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 11:03 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The Waltons title music is an absolute gem of simple melodic harmony. It's trumpet cum harmonica signature is just classic. I mean a real classic combo. Instantly recognisable and hummable. Intensely sweet to the musical brain. Don't know how he did it, but the simple background family scenario. It just fits. It's impossibly right. Instinct and feel. Nothing like it.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

Yes indeed credit to Justin B. I shall take no credit where none is due, but thanks for thinking of me Niall! He was having a Zoob moment.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2013 - 12:42 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

Yes indeed credit to Justin B. I shall take no credit where none is due, but thanks for thinking of me Niall! He was having a Zoob moment.

Of course Zoob...I never forget good and loyal friends like yourself, they are few and far between!

 
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