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Just wanted to let you know.
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Wow.
I envy you the virginal experience, and I don't know what you thought about it, but maybe it had had greater impact if you had seen it as an adolescent. I know it did for me -- being one of the few benchmark movies in my life and among my Top 3 favourite films of all time.
You are probably very right about the adolescence thing. It's bound to have a greater impact on a young person than on a 38-year old. That said, I enjoyed the film on many levels, but it didn't quite rush to the top of my favorite list.
And I can't help thinking what Tangerine Dream (or even Jean-Michel Jarre) would have done if they had scored it. Would have been magic! ;-)
TD - Force Majeure (1979):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4bql75Alao
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Aug 9, 2013 - 7:36 AM
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Ado
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Wow.
I envy you the virginal experience, and I don't know what you thought about it, but maybe it had had greater impact if you had seen it as an adolescent. I know it did for me -- being one of the few benchmark movies in my life and among my Top 3 favourite films of all time.
You are probably very right about the adolescence thing. It's bound to have a greater impact on a young person than on a 38-year old. That said, I enjoyed the film on many levels, but it didn't quite rush to the top of my favorite list.
And I can't help thinking what Tangerine Dream (or even Jean-Michel Jarre) would have done if they had scored it. Would have been magic! ;-)
TD - Force Majeure (1979):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4bql75Alao
Oh, you are one of those.
If TD or JMJ scored it , you would have had a layer of synthetically produced marshmallow frosting on top, of course. The score Jerry produced is perfect for the picture, with the caveat that Ridley botched up sections of it, like the Howard Hanson thing at the end. Like Outland, the score Jerry put together raised the intelligence of the picture, whereas these other two would have dated the picture, and made it a lesser thing. Yeah, I know that is my opinion. But really, I mean really!
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Am I the only one who thinks the Hanson end piece is perfect? I mean, the big orchestra climax as Ripley wins....then the calming theme of "The Romantic".....I think it fits very well.
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>>>>>>And I can't help thinking what Tangerine Dream (or even Jean-Michel Jarre) would have done if they had scored it. Would have been magic! ;-) >>>>>>>>
You've only just seen the damn thing and already you want to change it!!
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Aug 9, 2013 - 8:02 AM
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I'm 28 and I saw Alien for the first time about two months ago. The only movie in the series that I'd seen prior to that is Prometheus, which I liked about as much (sorry, Internet).
I, too, thought it was very good but not an all-time great. It's hard to judge Alien as its own movie in the year 2013, though - everything that Alien did in 1979 was integrated by the film industry, processed, bottled, and injected into almost every sci-fi and horror movie that has been released since then. I've seen everything that has happened in Alien many dozens of times in my life - maybe not done better, but -to me- done first. So the movie loses a lot of its impact.
I think you're right, that a lot of people saw Alien for a first time in their younger years and, as such, established a much tighter connection with the film. As far as the style of movie goes, Aliens sounds like it will be more up my alley than Alien was - I plan on giving that one a shot sometime soon.
I don't remember an awful lot of Goldsmith's score, to be honest, and while I like some of his stuff, I am not the biggest Goldsmith fan around. The only series score that I have on CD is Horner's Aliens, which was a blind buy and not something that I particularly care for, TBH.
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Oh, you are one of those.
If TD or JMJ scored it , you would have had a layer of synthetically produced marshmallow frosting on top, of course. The score Jerry produced is perfect for the picture, with the caveat that Ridley botched up sections of it, like the Howard Hanson thing at the end. Like Outland, the score Jerry put together raised the intelligence of the picture, whereas these other two would have dated the picture, and made it a lesser thing. Yeah, I know that is my opinion. But really, I mean really!
Well, I don't agree. Just look at Blade Runner, a brilliant electronic score, and people STILL thinks it's brilliant, not many means it dates the picture. I'm 100 % sure TD would have delivered something in the same vein.
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It's hard to judge Alien as its own movie in the year 2013, though - everything that Alien did in 1979 was integrated by the film industry, processed, bottled, and injected into almost every sci-fi and horror movie that has been released since then.
Just what I thought.
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I still don't remember a thing about Jerry's score, though it's infinitely preferable to whatever bilge the likes of Tangerine Dream could have come up with. Their music killed the otherwise excellent "Thief", but I digress...
LOL. The Thief score is a masterpiece.
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Aug 9, 2013 - 9:12 AM
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Ado
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Oh, you are one of those.
If TD or JMJ scored it , you would have had a layer of synthetically produced marshmallow frosting on top, of course. The score Jerry produced is perfect for the picture, with the caveat that Ridley botched up sections of it, like the Howard Hanson thing at the end. Like Outland, the score Jerry put together raised the intelligence of the picture, whereas these other two would have dated the picture, and made it a lesser thing. Yeah, I know that is my opinion. But really, I mean really!
Well, I don't agree. Just look at Blade Runner, a brilliant electronic score, and people STILL thinks it's brilliant, not many means it dates the picture. I'm 100 % sure TD would have delivered something in the same vein.
Bladerunner is another ballgame, and I like Vangelis, but he is a long way from the compositional expertise of Jerry Goldsmith. And further, as someone else said, why cannot we just accept these old films as they are anyway? I mean I understand that what-if second guessing of so many marginal to terrible scores of films nowadays, but why would we second guess classic films and scores. I mean, like what if Hans Zimmer scored Ben Hur? (Oh yeah, that was Gladiator.)
Just an observation here, it seems people from the Norway part of the world like this wallpaper Tangerine Dream style stuff, I have seen a few people here from that area that are favorable to that stuff. so what is that, the cold weather?
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