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 Posted:   Jul 14, 2014 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I am still trying to figure out how you can spend $150 mill on a cgi film?
no big star salaries, no location costs etc

????
brm

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2014 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I am still trying to figure out how you can spend $150 on a cgi film?
no big star salaries, no location costs etc

????
brm


What's even more baffling is the fact work is being farmed out to third world countries where the animators make a fraction of what an animator would get in America.

Not sure if this is part of the answer but they developed a new software program for animating the film, so that may have been included in the production cost.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I am still trying to figure out how you can spend $150 on a cgi film?
no big star salaries, no location costs etc

????
brm


What's even more baffling is the fact work is being farmed out to third world countries where the animators make a fraction of what an animator would get in America[/endnote]

well, when the USA BECOMES A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY (it won't be long)
maybe the jobs will come back

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I think it is one of the better films I have seen this year, animation or live action.
The animation is top notch and it has a real story and interesting characters.

The score is fine, aside from the pop song which I felt intruded into the picture.
They should have left the song out.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I am still trying to figure out how you can spend $150 on a cgi film?
no big star salaries, no location costs etc

????
brm



Most major animated picture costs over $100 million now, entirely commonplace.

Big names of the past year

Frozen 150 M
Epic 100 M
Croods 135 M
Rio 2 103 M

Lego Movie was pretty cheap - around 70 m. Planes and the Planes Fire and Rescue are pretty cheap too but I believe that they were animated in India.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Planes and the Planes Fire and Rescue are pretty cheap too but I believe that they were animated in India.

Yep, isn't that under the Disney Toon's banner like the Tinker Bell series? Should read, Disney India so ppl really know where these "American" films are made.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

I am still trying to figure out how you can spend $150 mill on a cgi film?
no big star salaries, no location costs etc

????
brm


100 % special effects. You have to create absolutely everything. You get nothing for free.

It's not out of line with other big budget animated films.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Planes and the Planes Fire and Rescue are pretty cheap too but I believe that they were animated in India.

Yep, isn't that under the Disney Toon's banner like the Tinker Bell series? Should read, Disney India so ppl really know where these "American" films are made.



Yeah, it is under Toons

I still liked Planes though, simple, but fun.
Be taking the kid Friday to the new one.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I am still trying to figure out how you can spend $150 mill on a cgi film?
no big star salaries, no location costs etc

????
brm


100 % special effects. You have to create absolutely everything. You get nothing for free.

It's not out of line with other big budget animated films.


Even using 'slave labor' ?

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2014 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)





HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON 2- the album

resequenced by bruce Marshall

19. Where No One Goes – Jónsi (2:44)
2. Together We Map The World (2:19)
8. Meet Drago (4:26)
6. Valka’s Dragon Sanctuary (3:19)
7. Losing Mom – Meet The Good Alpha (3:24)
10. Flying With Mother (2:49)

12. Battle Of The Bewilderbeast (6:26)
14. Stoick Saves Hiccup (2:23)
15. Stoick’s Ship (3:48)
18. Two New Alphas (6:06)

tt: 37:48

Bonus track:
1. Dragon Racing (4:34)

I think of this as a companion piece to the first film's score. Thus, I have concentrated on cues that feature new themes, and listenability.

If, i missed cues that have themes new to "2" please advise.

enjoy
smile
brm

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2014 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Only thing I took out was that stupid song. The first track is like an awesome suite.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2014 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Only thing I took out was that stupid song. The first track is like an awesome suite.

I love the song!
brm

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2014 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Only thing I took out was that stupid song. The first track is like an awesome suite.

Agreed! There isn't a dull track otherwise.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2014 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

I am still trying to figure out how you can spend $150 on a cgi film?
no big star salaries, no location costs etc

????
brm



Most major animated picture costs over $100 million now, entirely commonplace.

Big names of the past year

Frozen 150 M
Epic 100 M
Croods 135 M
Rio 2 103 M

Lego Movie was pretty cheap - around 70 m. Planes and the Planes Fire and Rescue are pretty cheap too but I believe that they were animated in India.


And Tangled apparently cost $281 million:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/next-pirates-of-the-caribbean-movie-may-shoot-in-2015-at-worlds-end-most-expensive-film-ever-made-20140624

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2014 - 7:53 PM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON 2- the album

resequenced by bruce Marshall

19. Where No One Goes – Jónsi (2:44)
2. Together We Map The World (2:19)
8. Meet Drago (4:26)
6. Valka’s Dragon Sanctuary (3:19)
7. Losing Mom – Meet The Good Alpha (3:24)
10. Flying With Mother (2:49)

12. Battle Of The Bewilderbeast (6:26)
14. Stoick Saves Hiccup (2:23)
15. Stoick’s Ship (3:48)
18. Two New Alphas (6:06)

tt: 37:48

Bonus track:
1. Dragon Racing (4:34)

I think of this as a companion piece to the first film's score. Thus, I have concentrated on cues that feature new themes, and listenability.

If, i missed cues that have themes new to "2" please advise.

enjoy
smile
brm


I think it needs For the Dancing and the Dreaming more than Where No One Goes. I'm also very partial to Toothless Found. That and Stoick's Ship are the two tracks I play most.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2014 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

One thing no one has really mentioned about Powell's score is the delightful use of the celli section playing the melodies in their upper register. THis was a technique that was used by John Barry and Williams in the '70s and has all but disappeared in the late '90s and 2000s. It was mighty fine of Powell to employ them in this wonderful manner for some of his themes.



Can you give me an example of the celli? I'm not sure I would know it if I didn't know what I was looking for.


Flying with Mother 0:59

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2014 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

I'm gonna come right out here and call this a masterpiece. I really do consider this one Powell's magnum opus (for now). It's so rich in themes and melody and so thoughtfully composed (seen the film twice) with an unbelievable ear and eye for drama that I still can't get over how good this score is. And the album has a fantastic flow. The first one was magnificent but this one just tops it, it really is like Empire to Star Wars.
And while I'm at it, the same goes for 'Maleficent'. Another extraordinary piece of writing and the return to form for James Newton Howard. In another thread someone said it has been a weak year for scores so far, I couldn't disagree more!! Let's not forget 'The Monuments Men', 'Godzilla' and 'A Million ways to die in the West' and I'm still awaiting 'Dawn of the planet of the Apes' and 'Hercules'. Film music (as most of like it) is not dead!

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2014 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Luc I do agree that this year has seen some very strong scores indeed. I actually cannot remember when we had so many memorable scores. I hope it's a trend that is coming back to stay.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2014 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

Luc I do agree that this year has seen some very strong scores indeed. I actually cannot remember when we had so many memorable scores. I hope it's a trend that is coming back to stay.

Thanks, David. And I even forgot 'The Grand Budapest Hotel' and 'Beauty and the Beast' by Pierre Adenot. So yes, a marvelous first half of 2014.

 
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