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 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....It doesn't sound like NbNW and the primary thematic material is clearly that eight note repeated figure, which sounds strangely familar, I just can't place it.....


Yes, indeed, William!

What IS that theme from??!!!

I've heard it before, too, and can't place it yet.

It's driving me nuts!

Every time I run it through my head, though,
I keep hearing it as a march, repeating the last beat
several times more as a march tempo.

I wonder if the theme could originate in a military march,
or adventure kind of trek in some way.....

.....We're going to hate ourselves when we find out! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Blocking out the orchestrations and just listening to the theme itself, I get a hummable western.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

Still no correct guesses, but I think dashrr's guess of "Bernard Goldsmith?" is the best. I mentioned Goldsmith and Herrmann to the composer as being influences, and he agreed.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Every time I run it through my head, though,
I keep hearing it as a march, repeating the last beat
several times more as a march tempo.

I wonder if the theme could originate in a military march,
or adventure kind of trek in some way.....




The thing is, the attack on the prison scene in 'Exodus' has a treatment of the main theme that's similar, and that could be throwing us, which is probably why somebody above suggested Gold. The open fourths/fifths is another warfilm cliche. There's clearly a chase going on, either the hero's reaching the denouement or he's getting a hard time from the chasers. Is the staccato figure a machine-gun scenario?

Somehow it doesn't sound like a 'serious' thing like Lawrence of Arabia or the like. It's likely to be more of an adventure thing, more a Von Ryan than a Private Ryan.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Blocking out the orchestrations and just listening to the theme itself, I get a hummable western.


It could be one of those '60s westerns that used to be called 'quirky' for some odd reason. It's not got the usual Copland/Spaghetti/Americana feel to be a conventional Western. That might imply the fourths/fifths and the xylos are a Native American cliche.

If that were the case it could be as late as the 1970s (early) and it would give credence to the possibility of being influenced by Goldsmith as he claimed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Goldsmith influenced?
Scrap that late 50s to early 60s notion.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Thank heaven the term 'dated' isn't necessary a pejorative one.

What, you haven't heard The Amen Corner's end title song to Scream And Scream Again?

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2013 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I'm wondering if it's Richard LaSalle.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2013 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

Or maybe Richard Shores?

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2013 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

It's a Fiendish puzzle for sure.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2013 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Richard LaSalle is a good guess. Richard Shores is ruled out (no longer with us, unfortunately). Does Basil's FIENDish clue mean he knows?

I'm stumped with this one. I'm going solely on if the composer is still alive. That rules out so many, but we still have Van Alexander, Robert Cobert, La Salle... I'm also ruling out "big name" composers who are still with us too.

Probably wrong altogether. It may be from a much more obscure composer than any of the ones so far mentioned. It might even be from a MUCH more recent movie than most of us are imagining, so the composer wouldn't HAVE to be very elderly in that case.

To cut a long story short, The End.

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2013 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

What about Robert Drasnin? He's still with us...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2013 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

Could the first title be by Marc Wilkinson?

 
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