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 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

Doyle discusses the score a bit in a recent interview.

"Recently, in [the forthcoming film] Jack Ryan, he wanted a piece of music for this scene and I had the theme the following day for it. I actually wrote the main theme of the movie, just sitting there watching it."

"And I suppose the movie I’m working on at the moment, Jack Ryan – the depth to which I’ve immersed myself in the world of electronic music is quite a departure for me. So I’m hoping people appreciate it."

http://www.ascap.com/playback/2013/06/radar-report/great-scot-patrick-doyle-composes-himself.aspx

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

Oh noes! Not electronic! What would Goldsmith and Jarre think?

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Looks like Doyle's getting strongarmed into another chugga-chugga-chugga fest. frown

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Trent Easton Navarro   (Member)

Looks like Doyle's getting strongarmed into another chugga-chugga-chugga fest. frown

Wow, from just one quote you already know how this score is gonna turn out? Impressive dude, very impressive!

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Oh noes! Not electronic! What would Goldsmith and Jarre think?

I love Patrick Doyle's work in the 1990s. LOVE it. His 1993 alone puts most modern composers to shame. But this "Grandpap's Guide To Synthesizers" style he's adopted recently just does absolutely nothing for me at all. It only makes his orchestral elements sound thin, weak and easy to shove into lockers.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

Doyle made a conscious decision with Branagh to go modern with Thor, nobody forced him to do anything. He said it's one of the first things he and Branagh talked about.

It's one thing to not like his modern output but people need to stop saying that he's being forced to conform or whatever. He's certainly not struggling for work or money or anything, he easily could have left Thor or Apes, presumably this too, if he felt uncomfortable doing it. He retained that style for Apes despite Thor not having even opened yet. Despite what most would like to think, Doyle clearly doesn't hate writing in this way.

Doyle seems proud of his work for Thor and Apes. I enjoyed both plenty too and if Jack Ryan is in the same vein I'm sure I'll enjoy it too.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

No one is fool around here.

It is obvious that both Branagh and Doyle were "sugested" to go "zimmer style" on the score of "Thor".

There is nothing "modern" about it. In fact, it is quite the opposite. "Zimmer style" is primitive.

But it is just the way some studio executives believe teenagers like their movie music these days.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Ed   (Member)

Another franchise entry for Doyle! He always manages to go above and beyond what the executives want.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

There is nothing "modern" about it. In fact, it is quite the opposite. "Zimmer style" is primitive.


Yes, many older things sound like Zimmer. Like, like, like.... Um.....

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Doyle made a conscious decision with Branagh to go modern with Thor, nobody forced him to do anything. He said it's one of the first things he and Branagh talked about.

This is not what Doyle described in a video interview with Cut Filmmaking Network. They've since deleted the long interview from their site, but here what I wrote about what I heard him say:

"Listened to about 3/4th of the interview I linked above. My anticipation for his "Thor" score just went bye-bye, with him describing how the interference was like somebody standing on his shoulder, don't do this, don't do that, and, quote: "old school was a no-no"; couldn't even use trumpets until, as he said, about the last reel. And most everything had to be kept below middle C to appease, and anything above had to be really quiet."

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 5:32 PM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

That contradicts what he says in one his his FSM interviews with Tim Burden, when Tim asks about having to compromise, in as many words, and Doyle had nothing bad to say about Marvel. He also goes out of his way to say that it was a conscious decision he and Branagh made from the get-go.

I'm sure Marvel did interfere, you can tell from some cuts on the film, but people seem to be under the illusion that Doyle would have come in with some old school, sweeping score when he's made it clear it was always going to be modern.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 5:45 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

As someone who liked Doyle's THOR, I'm fairly intrigued at what he'll do with JACK RYAN.

If nothing else, the quieter moments of the film ought to shine with Doyle's trademark beauty.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 6:51 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I suspect Doyle realized his candidate reveal of the behind-the-scenes, wasn't probably not the best idea, hence the interview being taken down.

I don't know when exactly the interview went up, but it was first talked about here late March, 2011. Was that before Tim's interview?

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

Doyle made a conscious decision with Branagh to go modern with Thor, nobody forced him to do anything. He said it's one of the first things he and Branagh talked about.

This is not what Doyle described in a video interview with Cut Filmmaking Network. They've since deleted the long interview from their site, but here what I wrote about what I heard him say:

"Listened to about 3/4th of the interview I linked above. My anticipation for his "Thor" score just went bye-bye, with him describing how the interference was like somebody standing on his shoulder, don't do this, don't do that, and, quote: "old school was a no-no"; couldn't even use trumpets until, as he said, about the last reel. And most everything had to be kept below middle C to appease, and anything above had to be really quiet."


It also contradicts what we actually heard in the film.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Extremely excited about Doyle's take on Jack Ryan! Doyle scored my favorite movie of all time, incidentally: Carlito's Way. Very eager to hear him experimenting further with electronics, something I have no doubt he'll excel at!

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 1:12 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

The trailer gives me hope that Branagh has pulled off an interesting thriller with intense action.

Here´s hoping that Branagh could push for freedom for Doyle´s composing.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

I fully expect the movie to be good but the trailer was so incredibly generic.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

DP

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Was it? The character moments and the acting felt rather singular to me.

 
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