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 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 3:33 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

I'd love to see this wonderful score reissued as a two CD remastered set, with new liner notes etc. I was hoping Varese might do it before the demise of the Club releases...

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 3:34 AM   
 By:   trstnvnk   (Member)

I'd love to see this wonderful score reissued as a two CD remastered set, with new liner notes etc. I was hoping Varese might do it before the demise of the Club releases...

Are you suggesting the Club releases are dead?

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 3:42 AM   
 By:   JimWare   (Member)

I'd love to see this wonderful score reissued as a two CD remastered set, with new liner notes etc. I was hoping Varese might do it before the demise of the Club releases...

The complete score fits quite snugly on a single disc so there's no need for a double-CD set, but I wouldn't say no to a bit of remastering.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 4:20 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I have the single disc and it is fine musically, nice really. The mastering is a bit pinched sounding though.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   Moviedrone   (Member)

I'd love to see this wonderful score reissued as a two CD remastered set, with new liner notes etc. I was hoping Varese might do it before the demise of the Club releases...

The complete score fits quite snugly on a single disc so there's no need for a double-CD set, but I wouldn't say no to a bit of remastering.


Really? I bought the two iTunes albums and tried to burn to one but it was over. I know the Japanese Volcano one-disc omits the track 'The Future'.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

A CD set would be nice (you do need two discs), but there is a "deluxe edition" on iTunes from Varese, that contains all the music from the two vinyl releases from the late 80's, if you're interested.

If you search Lionheart on the board, some fine member posted the chronological track listing, which really works well presenting this fine score.

On a personal level, this is one of my top 10 Goldsmith scores, and it's the score where (I believe) he "found his sound" and he stuck with this format for (most) of his work from then on.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

The complete score fits quite snugly on a single disc so there's no need for a double-CD set

All the material released by Varèse totals an hour and twenty-three minutes. So not quite.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I cherish this score dearly.

"King Richard" is marvelous. I love the part towards the middle of the cue (right before the snare march begins) where Goldsmith brilliantly matches up two of the main themes for a statement of pure, soaring, magical beauty.

One of the most gorgeous moments of music he's ever written, that part. 4:28-4:46. A stirring dance of string theme and brass theme.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

All the material released by Varèse totals an hour and twenty-three minutes. So not quite.

Yes, but the final march is duplicated on both CDs. Remove the duplication and it all fits.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   LEONCIO   (Member)

I have the two volumes I buy cds 1987 and despite the years, still sounds great. In case anyone wants to hear this soundtrack by chronological order..........

1.-The Future (Partially Used. Only the part of "Main Title")
2.-The Ceremony
3.-The Castle (Partially Used)
4.-Brim Him Back
5.-Failed Knight
6.-The Circus
7.-Robert & Blache (Very Partially Used. Only the first 35 seconds)
8.-Children in Bondage
9.-Gates of Paris
10.-Paris Underground
11.-The Road from Paris
12.-The Banner
13.-The Dress (Partially Used)
14.-Mathilda
15.-The Plague (Partially Used)
16.-The Forest
17.-The Lake
18.-The Wrong Flag (Partially Used)
19.-Final Flight (Unused)
20.-King Richard

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I never understood this 'two volumes' ordeal. My Varese CD is neither first nor second volume, it's just a regular soundtrack....?

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

I never understood this 'two volumes' ordeal. My Varese CD is neither first nor second volume, it's just a regular soundtrack....?

If memory serves, I don't think it was originally meant as a 2 volume. It was released as a single lp or cd in 1987. Then sales warranted a volume 2 be released later. Then it was re-released as a single cd in 1994 that includes all of volume one and all but 5 cues from volume 2.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

I think a re-re-release could be justified here. 2disc set would be nice I guess. The one Goldsmith I truly wish varese would re-release would be Raggedy Man (expanded or not I don't care).
Is Raggedy Man one varese owns in perpetuity?

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I never understood this 'two volumes' ordeal. My Varese CD is neither first nor second volume, it's just a regular soundtrack....?

If memory serves, I don't think it was originally meant as a 2 volume. It was released as a single lp or cd in 1987. Then sales warranted a volume 2 be released later. Then it was re-released as a single cd in 1994 that includes all of volume one and all but 5 cues from volume 2.


Ah, I see. Then it's that 1994 CD that I have.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

I love the cue/track "Failed Knight" but other than that I "Lionheart" is not my cup of tea so to speak.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

"Mathilda" is a fantastic track -- one of my alltime favourite JG tracks, in fact.

It's part of a superb playlist I have called "Jerry Goldsmith Setpieces".

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I never understood this 'two volumes' ordeal. My Varese CD is neither first nor second volume, it's just a regular soundtrack....?

If memory serves, I don't think it was originally meant as a 2 volume. It was released as a single lp or cd in 1987. Then sales warranted a volume 2 be released later. Then it was re-released as a single cd in 1994 that includes all of volume one and all but 5 cues from volume 2.


Your memory has served you poorly.

This was always planned as a two volume set. I remember eagerly awaiting it after reading about it in "Soundtrack! The Collector's Quarterly" (a long, long time ago).

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2013 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I never understood this 'two volumes' ordeal. My Varese CD is neither first nor second volume, it's just a regular soundtrack....?

If memory serves, I don't think it was originally meant as a 2 volume. It was released as a single lp or cd in 1987. Then sales warranted a volume 2 be released later. Then it was re-released as a single cd in 1994 that includes all of volume one and all but 5 cues from volume 2.


Your memory has served you poorly.

This was always planned as a two volume set. I remember eagerly awaiting it after reading about it in "Soundtrack! The Collector's Quarterly" (a long, long time ago).


That's right! Two distinct LP's and then two two distinct CD's - all of which I eagerly waited for, and harassed my mailman with at the time. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2014 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

"Mathilda" is a fantastic track -- one of my alltime favourite JG tracks, in fact.

It's part of a superb playlist I have called "Jerry Goldsmith Setpieces".



Mathilda IS fantastic... and it occurred to me whenever replying to those "favorite score" threads, I NEVER mention this, although it may well be my favorite Goldsmith score and is no doubt one of my all time favorites.

The lyrical romantic quality carries this score, with Goldsmith using a variety of themes - the stately main theme, the dark theme for the villain - it is a very rich, very rewarding score. The main theme as presented at the conclusion of the King Richard track, is (imo ) Goldsmith's best "march" ever. Regal, romantic, thrilling - it builds to an enormous conclusion, just as exciting and glorious as any of his other more popular themes.

The writing is simple, clear, direct - not a collection of complex cues like Total Recall. But every bit as satisfying if not moreso.

I have the original 2 CDs and also the abbreviated 60 album later issued as "the symphonic epic".

I'd love a new release of this, like the Japanese Volcano label version. Varese issued the combined albums as The Deluxe Edition on iTunes... so come on... make it a physical release.

 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2014 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I would really like a full, remastered release of this score. It isn't perfect — this is one case where I'll admit that the electronics get a little overbearing in some cues (did I read somewhere that this was to cover up the orchestral performance?) — but it does have quite a few wonderful moments, quite a few distinctive themes, and a fantastic finale.

As has been mentioned, the track on volume 2 “The Future” contains a reprise of the march from “King Richard,” and everything previously released could easily fit on one CD with no problems. I don't know if there is any music from the film not represented on the two original albums, though.

 
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