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 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Whoa!!! A Film That's Actually About Something



More Than Sinematic McDonald's Con-fections Re



Never-Ending Rice Krispian Popcorn Adolescence
Departmen.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I seem to remember Clooney backed the wrong horse. Actually, it was kind of depressing.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

absolutely outstanding film... great screenplay, great performances

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 6:43 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Alrighty. But who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? Or does that question even have any meaning in this film? The weight of the situation falls this way or that way. Who sympathises with the loser in this day and age? Who even cares?

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

Alrighty. But who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? Or does that question even have any meaning in this film? The weight of the situation falls this way or that way. Who sympathises with the loser in this day and age? Who even cares?

Syriana is a complex morality tale. It almost needs to be mapped out (literally) in order to keep track of all the moving pieces. Perhaps, as in so many real world life situations, there are no absolute good guys. It is intended as more shades of grey than pure black and white. But the good and bad guys do exist. Actually the entire film is replete with them and they have a lot of meaning. 3 examples, in my estimation... (there are more, various people 'selling out')

Good Guy, Prince Nasir : wants to establish an increased independence from big oil and use the money to help his country into a better future.

Bad Guy, Danny Dalton : oil man willing to do anything

"Corruption is government intrusion into market efficiencies in the form of regulations. That's Milton Friedman. He got a goddamn Nobel Prize. We have laws against it precisely so we can get away with it. Corruption is our protection. Corruption keeps us safe and warm. Corruption is why you and I are prancing around in here instead of fighting over scraps of meat out in the streets. Corruption is why we win." — Danny Dalton explaining his role in the Connex and Killeen merger to Bennett Holiday.

Bad Guy trying to be Good Guy, Bob Barnes (George Clooney) : goes along with and implements subversive CIA policy, then tries to undo the damage

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



[ "Corruption is government intrusion into market efficiencies in the form of regulations. That's Milton Friedman. He got a goddamn Nobel Prize.

We have laws against it precisely so we can get away with it.

Corruption is our protection.



Corruption keeps us safe and warm.

Corruption is why you and I are prancing around in here instead of fighting over scraps of meat out in the streets.

Corruption is why we win."
]



STAND-OUT sequence amongst sooooo many ...

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2013 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Surprisingly few commentators, considering this film is an 'explosion' on the senses.

I saw it again, thanks to Neo's post, having seen it twice before and not having taken in 1/100th of the many points loaded into this most concise of teleplays. I confess, Wikipedia supplied the 99/100 other points that need picking up if the story is to have any meaning at all. Well maybe that's a little too hot a number to handle for most people's ability to soak up every relevant morsel on the first sitting. I think if you're concentrating moderately well, the gist still comes through because the plot 'lumps' are cogent enough to piece together the whole by the last frame.

Is it poetic justice that the device lost by Barnes in Tehran at the beginning is used in the finale to take out the Connex/Killeen tanker before it can deliver the first shipment? Are the two youngsters tasked with the job fanatics, or, are they just sacrificing themselves (knowing they are finished anyway) for the sake of their families? Is Bryan Woodman ready for a new direction in life after having seen death in the face on two consecutive occasions? And finally what is the fate of Whiting, given the demise of Barnes?

Finally + 1: If you're game, the script - THE SCRIPT - is available for up close and personal scrutiny.

http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/syriana/site/med/Syriana-Screenplay.pdf

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2013 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Learning from the Masters Department:

One of the keys to a long career is shrewdly balancing the commercial and the artistic -
and few have so totally made the system work for them in this manner as Mr.
Lancaster
, whose professionally-personally motta was "One for them" - the studios -
"and one for me" - to satisfy his own creative evolution.

Such sageness can also be applied to Mr. Clooney ... we have a feeling he'll
be remembered far more for risk-taking scenarios like this film (along with "Michael
Clayton" and its equally thoughtful ilk) than any of the Rice Krispies entertainments
that pay the freight for his foray into subjects others dare not touch.

cool cool

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2013 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Yes my friend. subject matters that the average person does not want to dwell too deep in because they are not attentive enough or to scared to be. [ho-ho-ha-ha-ho-ho]

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2013 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

however as for George Clooney, some things are better not to be said. Peace.

 
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