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 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



yeah Yeah YEAH u betcher bippie we're absolutmundo serious.

Forget the fact about the then-'outrageous' three million for three weeks work (or whatever it was 'cause it certainly
set the mercenary template for McQueen's similar tho unsuccessful extortion effort towards Coppola re "Apocalpyse Now"),



the Fact is his signing gave the film a legitimacy it wouldn't have ordinarily had and



is a thoroughly entertaining cameo that has its own authority and dignity. So there, nyahhhh ... smilewinkbig grin

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I think it was more like 10 million. But yeah he was awesome and his scenes were very powerful.
Makes me cringe seeing Kevin Coster basically ape Brando's performance in the trailers.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I think it was more like 10 million. But yeah he was awesome and his scenes were very powerful.
Makes me cringe seeing Kevin Coster basically ape Brando's performance in the trailers.


You mean Russel Crow?

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I think it was more like 10 million. But yeah he was awesome and his scenes were very powerful.
Makes me cringe seeing Kevin Coster basically ape Brando's performance in the trailers.


You mean Russel Crow?


Thxs, yeah him! LOL Kevin was Spider-Man then? Hard to keep track.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

His performance in Superman was superb. And his words "this is no fantasy" - the first spoken in the film during the Krypton fly-by - is the best opening line ever uttered in a fantasy film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Uh-ohhhhhh ... Der Apocalypse Surely Doth Now Approacheth Department:

wee in utter agreement with Mick!?!!!!!!!????

To quote the immortal words of Zero Mostel:

"What did we do RIGHT?"

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

I'm with you as always, neo. Brando's performance, and just his presence in the opening of the film is powerful beyond belief.
I've always felt that he was doing a bit of a Claude Rains impression with his voice.
Any thoughts?

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I can remember being puzzled at the idea of Brando being in a Superman movie. Any Superman movie. Is dat a joke?

I think more of it as his (what) third fling with Trevor Howard? And, oddly, in all cases the idea of mutiny in some way or other crops up.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

I've always loved the opening scenes on Krypton in the original Superman, and Brando's amazing performance. It was the high-point of the film for me, really. I've always felt the movie went downhill quickly and got too cheesy once it hit Metropolis... and watching Can You Read My Mind comes as close to making me angry as watching a movie ever has, lol.

Thxs, yeah him! LOL Kevin was Spider-Man then? Hard to keep track.

No, Costner is in Man of Steel as well; but he plays Jonathan Kent, not Jor-El. Although it's hard to really judge by the trailer, I think they could've done much worse.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)



Uh-ohhhhhh ... Der Apocalypse Surely Doth Now Approacheth Department:

wee in utter agreement with Mick!?!!!!!!!????

To quote the immortal words of Zero Mostel:

"What did we do RIGHT?"



I know. I can see the 4 horseman in the sky over my house!

And just to compound things, I also love The Producers too!

I'm probably just coming down with something mate.... send me some soup and I'm sure I'll be back to normal soon!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Yeah, Crom forbid either of us totally threaten those legions of anti-Mick und neo
-phytes by actually starting to assume Human-like qualities.

What would the rest of those angelic carbon-units comprising FSM DISassembled
have to feed their insatiable unlovable milk of inhuman kurdled non-kindness then?

Whew - wotta relief.

On third thot, why don't we join you in that chicken soup soiree ... wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 10:33 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Yeah, Crom forbid either of us totally threaten those legions of anti-Mick und neo
-phytes by actually starting to assume Human-like qualities.

What would the rest of those angelic carbon-units comprising FSM DISassembled
have to feed their insatiable unlovable milk of inhuman kurdled non-kindness then?



They are a good people, Neo. They wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 10:57 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

Oh, Sigerson, my man!

That was SO GOOD!!

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2013 - 11:05 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . the Fact is his signing gave the film a legitimacy it wouldn't have ordinarily had . . .


I think it's fair to say his signing gave the film its very existence, which wouldn't necessarily have been guaranteed otherwise. The Salkinds' daring fundraising strategy depended on "bankable" elements like the Oscar-winning star (and screenwriter, for that matter) of another big-hit tentpole franchise's first entry to entice investors and convince them of the "can't-miss" safety of investing in what turned out to be an extremely difficult and surprisingly costly technical achievement.

I think about who else might have been a convincing father to Christopher Reeve, which I think is one of the few fair criticisms you could level at the Brando choice, and I think Charlton Heston (veteran of other Salkind productions) might have been good, looks-wise. Ironically, both Reeve and Brando wore hairpieces to approximate the supposedly-hereditary spitcurl (though I believe in Brando's case it was because he was still bald from his "Apocalypse" stint in the Phillipines). But as far as sheer STARPOWER, it's a short list, isn't it? Whom else can one imagine, in the mid-seventies, justfying that long hazardous trip up the river when the Kurtz character shows up at the end of "Apocalypse Now"? Orson Welles was a fine choice for the similar function he performed in "The Muppet Movie," but there weren't THAT many enigmatic "must-see" superstars from which to choose, right?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2013 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Seer Sig, not that your influence within the educational universe all those years will ne'er lose their empowering luster for all those foundationally fortunate to have encountered thy own illuminating Light, you'da made a heckuva heavenly Barrister with your sublimely balanced emotionally enriched psychological insights ... (wanna represent us against the about-to-circle show biz sharks in the Ahead Tyme? wink )

As for your unassailable thesis, Mr. Heston surely would've provided a pronounced Presence and innate aura of authority but - as you articulate with such awareness - that unqualifiable IT of Chemistry is something we'd only imagine Der Great Scot might've come close to generally equaling, if mebbe not specifically surpassing, tho that immediately brings up the only other commanding Thespic Titan in Mr. Brando's rareified legendary class:



[ As to that, we gotta add this ornery Scottish caveat: if Mr. Connery Had been courted, you betcha - with his pesky penchant for persistently suing studios - The Salkinds might've been in legal Bondage above and beyond their wildest dreams. Matter of fact, we recall a story he related that he did, indeed, cross paths with Mr. Reeve at one point who asked him for advice on the Caped Enterprise he was about to embark upon, and Der Great Scot had just one thing to say:

"Make sure you have good lawyers". big grin

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2013 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

I'm no student of acting but I did enjoy his performance, particularly the farewell scene where he's saying goodbye to his son. And as a student of Williams, I was particularly interested in the the symbiosis of that farewell scene and how an actor can make the music better, not just visa versa.

- Adam

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2013 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Brando was great and though I didn't know who he was then, I was completely immersed in who he was as that character. It was a bit "deep" for me as a seven year old and it was only many years later after having watched vintage Brando did I fully appreciate the man's talent--when he wanted it to be seen.

...but seven-year-old me fell in love with Susannah York but there's already an appreciation thread for her. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2013 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

smile

Whilst having acted or directed is an invaluable asset towards truly appreciating the artful craft and craftful art part and profound parcel of any creative expression, just the humble assertion of your sincere validation (instead of the usual arrogant egoholic nonsense of those proclaiming their unstylish ignorance utterly bereft of a clue what the hell they're yapping about other than their own Rice Krispies 'opinionated' judgment) goes a wondrously wealthy long way, Gary.

Thing is, Mr. Brando professionally practiced what these other two legends below commonly did as a way of determining how respectful they'd be towards someone they hadn't worked with previously or had initial substantial doubts about: in order to win their Respect they TESTED you in a number of ways to see (2) if you truly did know what you were doing and, most pivotally, (1) if you had the guts and backbone to stand up to them.

If you passed these two obstacles, suddenly they were transformed into Opportunities to better the project you were all a part of.



Mr. Donner expressed his ever-lasting gratitude along these lines when, after he had to miss a day of
filming for (if feeble mem'ry recalls, either jet-lag or illness), Mr. Brando - whose iron-clad contract didn't
allow for any overages where his physical participation was concerned and he wasn't Even about to give
the producers a Freebie in any way, shape or form - gallantly agreed to repay Mr. Donner with an
additional day of filming to make up for the earlier inconvenience.

Naturally enuff, this sincerity and thoughtfulness is rarely one of the attributes most associated with
Mr. Brando, but we've a general suspicion amounting to a specific certainty such couldn't help but
enpower and elevate his positive portrayal on-screen also, no?

wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2013 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

It is going to be very hard for the new movie to better the Krypton sequences of The '78 movie. In the space of, what, 12 minutes, Donner manages to extract performances of pathos, compassion, threat and menace from his cast whilst combining epic scene of destruction with some superb production and costume design.

It is a fabulous sequence.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2013 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Try durn near Impossible, Mick Mate . What Mr. Donner's vision and his consummate collaborators brought brilliantly forth - if not dang definitively so - was a world we'd never seen before with its elegant crystal structures and illuminated wardrobe. It spectacularly achieved in that single seminal sequence whisking the audience beyond disbelief (or even the conscious suspension of) into an advanced civilization whose introduction was immediately hypnotic as it was spellbinding.



In Additional Apprecation: The OTHER John Barry Department:

Mr. Donner's exemplary Production Designer deserves his Olympian share of Everest acclaim as well since he so magnificently captured the other-worldly grandeur the former was so thankfully insistent upon.

[ When Mr. Barry died not long after the film's release, we had the most Hellacious tyme convincing others at the industry periodical we were then at it wasn't the composer and not until we finally got through to the then-Publisher and told her we'd just recently spoken with the 007 Musical Maestro and he was well and healthy did they finally stifle their original impulse and avoided what woulda been a considerable - to say nothing and everything of journalistically irresponsible and sloppy - professional publically-printed embarrassment. ] embarrassment



 
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