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 Posted:   Mar 19, 2013 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

I just noticed that the DVD-R Fox Archives is releasing of 23 Paces to Baker Street is listed as pan and scan. This is also the way TCM showed it a few months ago. Can there really be no existing widescreen source material for this film?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2013 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

There was a kick-up about this over on the hometheaterforum. It's not only 4x3 pan & scan, but also mono. It shows up several times a year in the UK on Channel Four in a good looking anamorphic 'scope & stereo transfer. And a few countries have it on DVD in 'scope & stereo. I think the problem is that the Fox Archives people seem to be grabbing the first masters they can put their hands on. I'm sure there's no problem with the elements, maybe just one of the films that Fox haven't got around to remastering in HD yet. Great score from Leigh Harline.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2013 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   filmo   (Member)

is there an isolated score to this movie?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2016 - 11:26 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

According to a 13 September report from Digital Bits, Kino Lorber has revealed that it’s working with the Film Foundation on a 4K restoration of Henry Hathaway’s 23 PACES TO BAKER STREET.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2016 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I just noticed that the DVD-R Fox Archives is releasing of 23 Paces to Baker Street is listed as pan and scan. This is also the way TCM showed it a few months ago. Can there really be no existing widescreen source material for this film?

I think the problem is that the Fox Archives people seem to be grabbing the first masters they can put their hands on.


They've been doing it too consistently for years to be an accident. Almost all their American MOD dvdrs for widescreen movies are pan/scan, while in Europe the films get released in widescreen on minted dvd. Amazon is full of angry consumers with the same complaints since they started their MOD division. Clearly, and presumably despite low sales, FOX thrives on this.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2016 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I think the problem is that the Fox Archives people seem to be grabbing the first masters they can put their hands on.


They've been doing it too consistently for years to be an accident. Almost all their American MOD dvdrs for widescreen movies are pan/scan, while in Europe the films get released in widescreen on minted dvd. Amazon is full of angry consumers with the same complaints since they started their MOD division. Clearly, and presumably despite low sales, FOX thrives on this.


I think I may have been a bit unfair when I wrote that (as CinemaScope). Fox seem to be such a strange company, with different departments acting as separate companies & not co-operating with each other. The department releasing the MOD program probably doesn't have access to better masters, it's a crazy way to run a company. After a less than satisfactory Blu-ray release of Patton, Fox re-did it, & everyone's very happy with it. It was never released in the UK (& region A locked in America), so after the release of the good edition Fox announced a release in Europe, lovely...except they released the first DRNed to death edition! When asked, Fox Europe said they didn't have access to the new transfer, er...this is one company isn't it? A very strange company.

I like 23 Paces To Baker Street for the lovely colour cinemascope shots of mid-fifties London, & I love the Leigh Harline score, the title music is like a proper overture, & I love the eerie music as nasty things are being done, it's one of my most wanted fifties releases, so far nothing, I wonder if the sound tapes have made it, it has been sixty years.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2016 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

23 PACES TO BAKER STREET was based on the 1938 novel Warrant for X by Philip MacDonald. Location shooting was done in London, which allowed Fox to use funds that were "frozen" in England and had to be expended there. Interiors were filmed at the Fox studio in Los Angeles.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2016 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Ah, I thought the interiors were shot in Hollywood. This & Bottom Of The Bottle were released in 1956 & both had the same director/lead actor & Composer (Henry Hathaway/Van Johnson/Leigh Harline), & both from Fox. I'd think quite rare, but maybe it happened a few times in the thirties & forties, thinking about the rate Hollywood were knocking them out then.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I see this is being shown at the New York Film Festival, they're having a bit of a Henry Hathaway retrospective, along with other films there's, Garden Of Evil & Manhunt (Hell To Texas), that's quite a good western, I wonder if it's had the 4K treatment? I hope a Baker Street Blu gets a European release.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I see this is being shown at the New York Film Festival, they're having a bit of a Henry Hathaway retrospective, along with other films there's, Garden Of Evil & Manhunt (Hell To Texas), that's quite a good western, I wonder if it's had the 4K treatment? I hope a Baker Street Blu gets a European release.

The NYFF is showing the 4K restoration. Looking forward to seeing this on Blu-ray - very entertaining mystery film.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2017 - 12:01 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The U.S. Blu-ray for 23 PACES TO BAKER STREET was released about 3 weeks ago. Robert Harris at the Home Theater Forum rates the widescreen transfer as: Image - 4.5 / 5 and Audio - 3.5 / 5. The original 4-track audio has been rendered as stereo, which may (or may not) benefit from being processed through a matrix decoder.

In the same thread, Haineshisway notes that "It's a nice upgrade from the UK DVD I have, but one wishes the color were a bit better - I'm sure they did the best they could, though. That said, the color in the UK DVD is a little more to my liking in that the buses, which in reality are RED, as are the phone booths and Ms. Miles' sweater, are actually red in the DVD instead of the ruddy brownish/rust color they are in the Blu-ray."

 
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