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Feb 17, 2013 - 12:10 AM
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Cooper
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I'll formulate my question like this in order to avoid posting (for now) in the trading section: Does anyone have a hint where to get the Christine BD (Twilight Time) for a reasonable price? I could honor such a hint with a gift ;-) Best, Burnie P.S. DAMN, these babes were gone faster than a rabbit gets .....! Twilight Time can have their maddening, scarcity fueled sales while I content myself with my DVD. At such time when a label that wants to distribute Christine to more than 3000 customers snaps up the rights--allowing for it to, you know, actually make its street date before selling out--I'll be ready to climb into my '58 Plymouth Fury and floor it to my nearest retailer. Even then, distribution on this catalog Carpenter Classic wouldn't likely land it on local shelves, so I'd probably be "dot coming" it. Sorry, Christine. You stay in the garage. If you're hellbent on finding a Twilight Blu once they make it into the lucky three-thousand's hands... I don't know, your best deal at Ebay or Amazon Marketplace?
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Or wait for an import to be available. Titles handled by TT in the states are now showing up for pre-order from Sony in other countries.
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I don't believe there is a lot of hate for Twilight Time, just frustration by those who wanted a copy but missed out because demand significantly exceeded supply.
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I got the email after it sold out and didn´t know it was going to be released at all before then. I´m a hugh Carpenter fan and would have bought it in a heartbeat , but lucked out. I thing a European BD will surface sonner than later, but would have loved to have TT´s edition with the isolated score on it and that goodlooking cover. I have both Fright night and Night of the livingdead and Christine would have been a nice companion on the shelf. I understand that it is buisness and that the label wants to sell as many and as fast to earn money so i´m not pissed about it...
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As I've posited elsewhere - what went on with Christine became a big game to people - people buying up multiple copies to see how fast they could sell this thing out. No one knows what the "demand" for Christine is or was based on this sellout because there was something else at play here and everyone on these boards who's been here for any length of time knows what that is - because we all watched it happen time and again when Varese would issue a 1000 copy thing - the game was how fast could or would it sell out and the answer was - hours. Many of them went directly to speculators and game-players - on certain titles they got stuck but good after the initial panic abated. The speculators kept at it for a while, but after being burned one too many times they did what all speculators do - after ruining something for many people, they moved on to the next thing. I would venture to say there's not a one of them left in the limited edition soundtrack game, which is why - wait for it - 1000 copy limited editions of amazing scores aren't selling out in hours. Because now it's just the people who actually want them. So, Laura at 1000 units takes four or five days and the 1000 people who wanted it have it. Same with other labels. The last time I saw anything like speculation was on the Herrmann box set and it wasn't big. But you will notice in the case of this particular game, it involves only one genre of film - horror. Twilight Time has released something like forty-four titles so far, out of which only seven have sold out and only one of which sold out in less than a day. But with Christine, those fires were being fanned daily since the day it was announced - gleefully fanned, I may add, by the same people on every forum. Over and over again, pages and pages of the panic button being pushed relentlessly. People gleefully admitting they'd bought five copies, or however many. How can that tell you what the real demand for anything is? Had Sony put this out themselves it would not have sold anywhere near 3000 copies this quickly or maybe ever, because the other lesson we've learned here is that the minute you make a thing unlimited everyone thinks they have all the time in the world to make their purchase and some don't ever make the purchase and some wait until a notice goes up that says something is going away. We see it over and over again here. As to those who council waiting for an overseas release - since those have to do with overseas branches of Sony and not Sony US, you have no way of knowing what any of those transfers will look like.
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One big issue with this was that, apparently, the initial quantity limit on an order was 10 instead of 2. While I wasn't really interested enough in this one for it to be worth $30 to me, I did read the Blu-Ray.com thread on the release, and one user there ordered his 10 copies shortly after the listing went up, and his brother ordered another 10. Between them, they now have 19 extras to sell off at the eBay prices; copies which could have been sold to real fans of the film had the lower limit been in place from the start. Perhaps even a limit of 1 copy per order could be imposed for the first 24 hours on those TT releases expected to be subject to high demand, and then upped to 2 or 3 after that. That might also help those people who work odd hours, and may not be able to be sitting at their computer the second the listing first goes up.
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Feb 17, 2013 - 11:45 AM
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Bond1965
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As I've posited elsewhere - what went on with Christine became a big game to people - people buying up multiple copies to see how fast they could sell this thing out. No one knows what the "demand" for Christine is or was based on this sellout because there was something else at play here and everyone on these boards who's been here for any length of time knows what that is - because we all watched it happen time and again when Varese would issue a 1000 copy thing - the game was how fast could or would it sell out and the answer was - hours. Many of them went directly to speculators and game-players - on certain titles they got stuck but good after the initial panic abated. The speculators kept at it for a while, but after being burned one too many times they did what all speculators do - after ruining something for many people, they moved on to the next thing. I would venture to say there's not a one of them left in the limited edition soundtrack game, which is why - wait for it - 1000 copy limited editions of amazing scores aren't selling out in hours. Because now it's just the people who actually want them. So, Laura at 1000 units takes four or five days and the 1000 people who wanted it have it. Same with other labels. The last time I saw anything like speculation was on the Herrmann box set and it wasn't big. But you will notice in the case of this particular game, it involves only one genre of film - horror. Twilight Time has released something like forty-four titles so far, out of which only seven have sold out and only one of which sold out in less than a day. But with Christine, those fires were being fanned daily since the day it was announced - gleefully fanned, I may add, by the same people on every forum. Over and over again, pages and pages of the panic button being pushed relentlessly. People gleefully admitting they'd bought five copies, or however many. How can that tell you what the real demand for anything is? Had Sony put this out themselves it would not have sold anywhere near 3000 copies this quickly or maybe ever, because the other lesson we've learned here is that the minute you make a thing unlimited everyone thinks they have all the time in the world to make their purchase and some don't ever make the purchase and some wait until a notice goes up that says something is going away. We see it over and over again here. As to those who council waiting for an overseas release - since those have to do with overseas branches of Sony and not Sony US, you have no way of knowing what any of those transfers will look like. On the good news front, selling out this title means more money for Twilight Time to fund other releases that won't sell out in less than 24 hours. James
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On the good news front, selling out this title means more money for Twilight Time to fund other releases that won't sell out in less than 24 hours. So the good news is that their selling-out of this title while I was still in bed means they'll be able to release something I don't want in future. Woop-de-feckin'-doo.
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Fucking site crashed when I was paying. Not happy.
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Yes for me too. I had it in the can, but when putting shipping the site crashed and then I refreshed my site and it was still in the can but when I got thru with checkout and was going to pay it was gone again...was going to buy it with two other titles but now I´m pissed off royaly and it´s no sale at all!!! set the alarmclocks??? no go get a fucking Delorean timetravel back and get it instead...more chance in getting it that way not happy?? I´m pissed off
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Same here, I had it in the cart and was at the final moments of paying and crash.
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