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 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

Christmas Eve was a wipeout for Netflix's members who wanted to stream anything. Nothing for anyone as they had some sort of problem with Amazon's 'cloud'? They printed an apology saying 'sorry for the inconvenience'. Today, Dec.31st, I cannot log-in as Netflix's site is down. It has been for over 4 hours since 6:00 a.m. when I first made an attempt. Unfortunately for me, there simply is no alternative. But I'm wondering for how long how many people will continue to accept their 'sorry for the inconvenience' (without any compensation offered)? Really frustrating.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

I do wonder what the problem is. Are they having trouble dealing with high demand during holiday hours, or is it just spectacularly bad timing from some other problem?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

And some people want to get rid of their dvds & blu-rays, or prefer to see
the demise of physical media completely in favor of this? No thanks.

Den

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

I know about the Christmas Eve problems, but myself and JJH have had no issues with Netflix today. Perhaps it's operator error?

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   JJH   (Member)

I know about the Christmas Eve problems, but myself and JJH have had no issues with Netflix today. Perhaps it's operator error?


This.



Netflix is working just fine for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

I know about the Christmas Eve problems, but myself and JJH have had no issues with Netflix today. Perhaps it's operator error?


Not operator error. It IS back up and running now so that is why you've seen no problems. But it was 6 hours (maybe more) that the entire site was down. I spoke to a Netflix customer service rep (they are ALWAYS the nicest people) at around 11:00 am and she could not access any customer's info or que either. She said the local hubs for distribution of dvds also had this problem, they couldn't access anything either. So that means no dvd's will be mailed out today, Monday the 31st and of course tomorrow's a Holiday so nothing will be sent out until Wednesday. This really pisses me off because I'd wanted to get 'Beasts of the Southern Wild' to see what the excitement was all about over it. I realize my own desires are seemingly petty, but multiply them by millions and, well, there it is.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

And some people want to get rid of their dvds & blu-rays, or prefer to see the demise of physical media completely in favor of this? No thanks.
Den



EXACTLY!!

Everything is fine and dandy until some anonymous bozo unknowingly trips over the big cord coming out of the wall. Or has an axe to grind and decides to teach the company a lesson.

No thanks X 10.

(Sorry for veering off-topic.)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

And some people want to get rid of their dvds & blu-rays, or prefer to see the demise of physical media completely in favor of this? No thanks.
Den



EXACTLY!!

Everything is fine and dandy until some anonymous bozo unknowingly trips over the big cord coming out of the wall. Or has an axe to grind and decides to teach the company a lesson.

No thanks X 10.

(Sorry for veering off-topic.)



No Octoberman, you didn't veer. I don't have streaming ONLY because the films and tv that I'd normally rent are (mostly) unavailable for streaming. It's just the taste preferences of mine that are the opposite of what Netflix offers for streaming. Millions of households across the country who DID depend on streaming on Xmas eve went - without till about Midnight.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

I don't have instant viewing but the problem seems to be that they are doing maintenance work.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   stringbean   (Member)

And some people want to get rid of their dvds & blu-rays, or prefer to see
the demise of physical media completely in favor of this? No thanks.

Den


On the other hand, your DVD/Blu Ray player could just as easily crap out at anytime! wink

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

And some people want to get rid of their dvds & blu-rays, or prefer to see
the demise of physical media completely in favor of this? No thanks.


No, that's why media centers were created. Or do you prefer to sit through the unskippable crap at the beginning of your discs? Rip 'em and file 'em away. Then access everything as needed. What the streaming services really need is a "buffering" arrangement where customers can auto-download a rental—say, when the traffic is light—then watch later.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Better that then having my entire collection on some cloud that could disappear in the blink of an eye.

A few ads is not that big a deal. Sometimes people tend to act like the preamble to the feature film is preventing them from living their fast-paced lives running from place to place tending to the sick and injured. Believe me, no one's time is THAT precious. Except, perhaps, for the good folks that ARE actually running around tending to the sick and injured. big grin
Ba-dum-tsh!big grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2012 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

Better that then having my entire collection on some cloud that could disappear in the blink of an eye.

Not unless the house burns down, in which case one has bigger problems. By "media center" I did not mean all streaming from the "cloud." I meant a local computer. And the ads aren't that life altering, but they can be pretty darn annoying when—for example—you're doing a series marathon on some weekend while working on a project. Or maybe you want to watch a favorite episode of some show while eating, rather than finishing your meal while the ads are still droning on. (And some of us older DOCTOR WHO fans really can't stand the new series at all, but the unskippable ads are there waiting to ambush us.)

Imagine having to sit through similar delays every time you put a CD in... it would push you towards some kind of digital media player or other "jukebox" pretty darn quick, wouldn't it?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2013 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

I don't stream but I can't help repeating my own biggest Netflix gripe. They charge an elevated monthly fee for BluRay access even if only one rental in ten (or one in twenty) is a BluRay.

 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2013 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I agree all those unskippable ads are annoying as hell. Though the two Blu-rays I got most recently don't seem to have that problem. If the previews are skippable, I can see why it fits to have them because they are assuming that people who are watching at home don't go to the theaters so they want to give you a chance to know what else is out there.

As for the streaming issue, I have rarely seen serious downtime but I agree they should have some option to pre-download your show in some format so you don't have to download constantly while you watch. Someday we might see something like that.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2013 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

And some people want to get rid of their dvds & blu-rays, or prefer to see
the demise of physical media completely in favor of this? No thanks.

Den


On the other hand, your DVD/Blu Ray player could just as easily crap out at anytime! wink



The simple solution to that is to own several different dvd players or blu-ray players. smile

Den

 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2013 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

And some people want to get rid of their dvds & blu-rays, or prefer to see
the demise of physical media completely in favor of this? No thanks.

Den


On the other hand, your DVD/Blu Ray player could just as easily crap out at anytime! wink



The simple solution to that is to own several different dvd players or blu-ray players. smile

Den


Exactly - I have two Blu Ray Players right next to each other so I am covered.

I don't bother with streaming - way too much hassle - if I do watch something other than a disc, I will do On-Demand through my Fiber-Optic TV system...:-)

 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2013 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Not unless the house burns down, in which case one has bigger problems. By "media center" I did not mean all streaming from the "cloud." I meant a local computer. And the ads aren't that life altering, but they can be pretty darn annoying when—for example—you're doing a series marathon on some weekend while working on a project. Or maybe you want to watch a favorite episode of some show while eating, rather than finishing your meal while the ads are still droning on. (And some of us older DOCTOR WHO fans really can't stand the new series at all, but the unskippable ads are there waiting to ambush us.)
Imagine having to sit through similar delays every time you put a CD in... it would push you towards some kind of digital media player or other "jukebox" pretty darn quick, wouldn't it?



Better my own house burns down, ruining my possessions with it (which is all heavily insured, of course), than some corporate tech headquarters ruining the digital possessions (if one wishes to call them such) of thousands or even millions of people. I get what you are saying and I'm not particularly opposed to people using cloud or streaming services IF THEY SO CHOOSE, but as an individual I eschew the whole notion of someone other than me being in charge of my stuff, or someone arbitrarily deciding that I don't even get a choice.

Sure, you can use the "imagine-if" argument in ANY situation. And sometimes it would be right. But soon that becomes less and less a tactic for discussion and more like a tactic to sell a car (the car, in this case, being these download/streaming services in question). It's one of the oldest marketing tools in the book.

In any case, it looks like the people have spoken... IF the comments in here could be said to represent a fair cross-section of the mindset out there. The people who paid Netfix in good faith should be compensated for the stoppage in service. I think we can all agree on that.

 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2013 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Netflix usually ends up giving a small credit when there is an outage like this. At least I have had this happen in the past.

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2013 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I like watching the previews on DVDs, but I guess it's because I don't watch TV commercials and rarely go to the theaters to see movies so I'm largely unaware of a movie otherwise.

 
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