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 Posted:   Dec 6, 2012 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I wanted to start a thread specific to this expanded release from La-La Land, with comments and questions. This is a really great album from LLL and I am enjoying as much as I knew I would! I do have a few questions, however, that are not answered directly in the liner notes.

Specifically several of the bonus tracks... I haven't seen the film in many years so I have no memory of whether these are the cues that appear in the final version. I am curious about cues such as "Regret", "Wall Street Station", "Ode to Johnny" and "Escape" and where these wound up in the film, if at all. Are these alternates that were never used? I realized that "No Rush" is from the end of the film since it includes those snippets of Wagner, mentioned by Jeff Bond in his liner notes. Also, I know that "The Foundry" was included on the original album and is not composed by Kamen... was it actually used in the film?

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2012 - 10:21 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

The Foundry appears very briefly in the scene where Willis is beating the sh#% out of a baddie with a giant chain in a cargo bay towards the end of the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2012 - 10:32 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

That's when he goes on that ridiculous rant about The Addams Family and Lurch! Jesus, how absurd. How McClane. I love it!

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2012 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Thanks Mutant, that helps, I am just trying to figure out if this piece would belong in the body of the score itself, as a listening experience.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2012 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   JasonComerford   (Member)

What I'd like to know is, how did all the masters end up at Disney? Can that story be told?

I haven't gotten the album yet, so I apologize if this has been covered in the liner notes.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2012 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

This is the one w the NY Fed and the bullion, right? I would like to get this if so bc in recent years I have taken a strong liking to Maestro Kamen -- kinda like that 2nd or 3rd wave of American Composers, and you guys know I like my NY films too. Thanx.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2012 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

What I'd like to know is, how did all the masters end up at Disney? Can that story be told?

I haven't gotten the album yet, so I apologize if this has been covered in the liner notes.


I'd really like to know the history behind this too!

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2012 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

- What I'd like to know is, how did all the masters end up at Disney? Can that story be told?

....and what other mysteries lie inside the vaults?

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2012 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Frank V   (Member)

The film was released by 20th Century Fox and Cinergi Pictures. 20th Century Fox released the film in the US. Cinergi however had a distribution deal with Disney to release the film in Europe. I guess Cinergi also had the music rights and when the studio closed the rights were sold to Disney.

The DVD and Blu-ray releases are also released in Europe by Disney and not by 20th Century Fox.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2012 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   jkheiser   (Member)

- What I'd like to know is, how did all the masters end up at Disney? Can that story be told?

Die Hard with a Vengeance was a co-production between Cinergi Pictures and 20th Century Fox, which had distribution rights in the US and Japan. Elsewhere in the world, however, Disney handled the distribution. When Cinergi became defunct, Disney acquired most of Cinergi's properties, assets amongst which the Die Hard with a Vengeance masters must have belonged.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2012 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

- What I'd like to know is, how did all the masters end up at Disney? Can that story be told?

Die Hard with a Vengeance was a co-production between Cinergi Pictures and 20th Century Fox, which had distribution rights in the US and Japan. Elsewhere in the world, however, Disney handled the distribution. When Cinergi became defunct, Disney acquired most of Cinergi's properties, assets amongst which the Die Hard with a Vengeance masters must have belonged.


And there you have it! smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2012 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I just watched it the other day and it seems like almost %50 of the music is tracked in from part 1 and 2.
Can't wait to hear what he had intended.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2012 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   kusi81   (Member)

Has anyone got his copy of DH3?

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2012 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Has anyone got his copy of DH3?

Yes, I picked up my copy at last Monday's "Star Trek" event here in Hollywood. I have enjoyed listening to the score, what was unused in the film and the bonus tracks. The full 2 hours of score is a lot to get through, so I will make a shorter playlist of highlights for further listens, but it's all neat stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2012 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   kusi81   (Member)

Has anyone got his copy of DH3?

Yes, I picked up my copy at last Monday's "Star Trek" event here in Hollywood. I have enjoyed listening to the score, what was unused in the film and the bonus tracks. The full 2 hours of score is a lot to get through, so I will make a shorter playlist of highlights for further listens, but it's all neat stuff.


Is there a chance to contact you outside this forum? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2012 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   JohnF   (Member)

So what is the deal with "The Foundry" cue? Did Kamen compose this for another film and was tracked in? What part of the film is it supposed to score? Wish the liners explained the bonus cues...

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2012 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

So what is the deal with "The Foundry" cue? Did Kamen compose this for another film and was tracked in? What part of the film is it supposed to score? Wish the liners explained the bonus cues...

"The Foundry" is a piece of music composed by Alexander Mosolov, not by Kamen, which I don't think is noted on this release but is on the original album credits. If you read earlier in this thread, you can see where I asked the same question and Mutant answered. There is no further info in the noted on why this was used, unfortunately.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2012 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Has anyone got his copy of DH3?

Yes, I picked up my copy at last Monday's "Star Trek" event here in Hollywood. I have enjoyed listening to the score, what was unused in the film and the bonus tracks. The full 2 hours of score is a lot to get through, so I will make a shorter playlist of highlights for further listens, but it's all neat stuff.


Is there a chance to contact you outside this forum? smile


Depends on what the question is... wink

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2012 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   kusi81   (Member)

Has anyone got his copy of DH3?

Yes, I picked up my copy at last Monday's "Star Trek" event here in Hollywood. I have enjoyed listening to the score, what was unused in the film and the bonus tracks. The full 2 hours of score is a lot to get through, so I will make a shorter playlist of highlights for further listens, but it's all neat stuff.


Is there a chance to contact you outside this forum? smile


Depends on what the question is... wink


;-) I'll tell you, do you've any instant messaging tool like Skype? my mail is kusi81(at)gmx.net

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2012 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Has anyone got his copy of DH3?

Yes, I picked up my copy at last Monday's "Star Trek" event here in Hollywood. I have enjoyed listening to the score, what was unused in the film and the bonus tracks. The full 2 hours of score is a lot to get through, so I will make a shorter playlist of highlights for further listens, but it's all neat stuff.


Is there a chance to contact you outside this forum? smile


Depends on what the question is... wink


;-) I'll tell you, do you've any instant messaging tool like Skype? my mail is kusi81(at)gmx.net


Feel free to email me at the email address in my profile, that will work better.

 
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