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 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

This is on SonyHD channel this month... it may just be me but the film looks MUCH better than it has before. As per my previous post above, it had been looking awful ( the deliberate hazy/smoke photography notwithstanding ) - but I DVR'd it this week and the print seems to much improved - much sharper, what seems to be a huge improvement over the last run and no doubt it looks better than the DVD.

Anyone else see it this month...is it just me? If it IS a new HD master...can a BluRay be far behind?

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 9:57 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Anyone know why the photography is so *hazy* looking in this film?

I thought it was atmospheric so the numerous miniature scenes would blend in better? They used the "smoke room" (?) a lot back then to defuse light and give model work a sense of scale.


Holy shit, Herb, solium is right (sorry, solium, I couln't resist) but that is indeed what I read in American Cinematographer years ago. For some reason, I forget why, they started filming the miniatures first, before the live-action, and Bill Fraker smoked up the stages and used heavy diffusion to help hide the wires on the model panes and sell the sense of scale, as solium stated; then they carried that over into the main production shoot to make the photography match.

The movie is long overdue a good quality hi-def remastering, but it's definitely a film with a cult appeal.


That's exactly where I read, it all those years ago. big grin

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 4:26 AM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

Well, looks like we're finally getting it, but it's the Theatrical Cut only, and you have to buy 7 other movies with it:

http://www.amazon.com/Steven-Spielberg-Directors-Collection-Blu-ray/dp/B00LFHYX2I/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1404213810&sr=8-5&keywords=spielberg+collection+blu-ray

No word on the transfer yet. I'm sure people will complain it's too "soft" ... ahahaha ...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Oh dear. I've seen it now and, as mentioned elsewhere on the board (perhaps in the fim score section) apart from the score, which is brilliant, I found it to be an unfunny masterclass in ineptitude.

I've never seen a film try so hard for so little result.

And I really, really wanted to like it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

Oh dear. I've seen it now and, as mentioned elsewhere on the board (perhaps in the fim score section) apart from the score, which is brilliant, I found it to be an unfunny masterclass in ineptitude.

I've never seen a film try so hard for so little result.

And I really, really wanted to like it.


See, all you have to do is compare it to Michael Bay's latest, and soon its multi-layered subtleties and poetic touches will become apparent...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

GREAT NEWS! And ALWAYS, DUEL and SUGARLAND! Don't mind rebuying JAWS, E.T., JURASIC PARK and THE LOST WORLD either, they now, I think, have disc art.smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

but it's the Theatrical Cut only,

where do you read that?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

but it's the Theatrical Cut only,

where do you read that?


Good question.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 12:25 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

but it's the Theatrical Cut only,

where do you read that?


Good question.


its probably a test run to see how this box set sells and then the separate re-issues to follow. I do hope that 1941 gets a proper edition release with both the theatrical and extended cut.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 12:27 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

MikeP: Re: And let's be honest, if he thought there was any real danger if his career going down the pan, he'd have signed up to do a Close Encounters pdq. Interestingly, he did once claim he was going to do a sequel (CE4K) so perhaps that was his "banker" movie that he was keeping in his back pocket just in case things went tits up.

Anybody remember the big deal they made when Spielberg re-released "Close Encounters" with an extended scene at the end as well as some editing, such as (mercifully!) shortening the awful scene in which Dreyfuss is unable to control his building of the mountain of mud in his house which comes close to derailing the entire film? I remember the letdown of so many of us in the audience, because we had been given the impression that it would be considerably more than the little they added. I had a letter printed in the Calendar section of the L.A. Times a few days later complaining about it. Still hate that mud scene when I see the original version of the film, but at least I know what to expect.

I did NOT care for "1941" when I saw it -- it simply bypassed my funny bone. But I've always loved the music that Williams wrote for it, especially the thunderous "March," which was one of the pieces I used to use to show off my stereo.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 2:25 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

MikeP: Re: And let's be honest, if he thought there was any real danger if his career going down the pan, he'd have signed up to do a Close Encounters pdq. Interestingly, he did once claim he was going to do a sequel (CE4K) so perhaps that was his "banker" movie that he was keeping in his back pocket just in case things went tits up.

Anybody remember the big deal they made when Spielberg re-released "Close Encounters" with an extended scene at the end as well as some editing, such as (mercifully!) shortening the awful scene in which Dreyfuss is unable to control his building of the mountain of mud in his house which comes close to derailing the entire film? I remember the letdown of so many of us in the audience, because we had been given the impression that it would be considerably more than the little they added. I had a letter printed in the Calendar section of the L.A. Times a few days later complaining about it. Still hate that mud scene when I see the original version of the film, but at least I know what to expect.

I did NOT care for "1941" when I saw it -- it simply bypassed my funny bone. But I've always loved the music that Williams wrote for it, especially the thunderous "March," which was one of the pieces I used to use to show off my stereo.



Digital Bits confirm its going to be both Theatrical and Extended Cut [1941]- So I'll prefer to get the stand alone edition when it comes out eventually.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 3:14 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

MikeP: Re: And let's be honest, if he thought there was any real danger if his career going down the pan, he'd have signed up to do a Close Encounters pdq. Interestingly, he did once claim he was going to do a sequel (CE4K) so perhaps that was his "banker" movie that he was keeping in his back pocket just in case things went tits up.

Anybody remember the big deal they made when Spielberg re-released "Close Encounters" with an extended scene at the end as well as some editing, such as (mercifully!) shortening the awful scene in which Dreyfuss is unable to control his building of the mountain of mud in his house which comes close to derailing the entire film? I remember the letdown of so many of us in the audience, because we had been given the impression that it would be considerably more than the little they added. I had a letter printed in the Calendar section of the L.A. Times a few days later complaining about it. Still hate that mud scene when I see the original version of the film, but at least I know what to expect.

.


I'm a huge fan of CE3K and personally had no problem with the Special Edition at all.

Mind you I've lost count of how many other versions of the film there are. Obviously, the Collector's Edition but there are also a multitude of TV prints that are different again to any of the three official Spielberg cuts.

I have on VHS a recording I made from the very first time CE3K was shown on British television. Unless my memory is playing tricks on me, I'm certain that, in the scene where Melinda Dillon is searching for Barry, she bumps into a scarecrow. I've never seen that shot anywhere else so possibly I'm just imagining it but it is quite vivid in my mind.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Mike: 'm a huge fan of CE3K and personally had no problem with the Special Edition at all.

I don't have a problem with it, just with the big deal they made of it to get us to go back to the theatre to see it again. I lined up to see it the weekend it opened at our Cinerama Dome in Hollywood and liked it a lot and immediately bought the soundtrack, and probably went back to see it again at least once, and immediately bought it on home video (VHS) as soon as it was released. There was an inflated buildup to the Special Edition that simply wasn't realized for many of us when we paid to see it. I still remember the is-that-all-there-is reaction I had and many around me had when it was over.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Man I'm looking forward to this set! Now just MUNICH needs to be released.

 
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