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 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

Just found this on another forum -- (quote) :

Dredd (2012) composer Paul Leonard-Morgan had some interesting ideas of his own in response to questions on how he approached Dredd : "Take a bunch of 80's analog synths, stick them through every distortion pedal known to man, then add on some crunched up beats, and you should be halfway there ..."

Listen to the emphasis Dredd Exec Producer Stuart Ford places on the "propulsive, super-contemporary score", here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3RxfuDbhTc&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLA04557859246446F

And, apparently a CD with Leonard-Morgan's music is comming from Lionsgate Records on Sept. 27!


 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

The movie is okay--starts off pretty bad (and severely limited by budget constraints), then works its way up to passable by the end. If you're into the style of the score I suppose it's fine; won't be of interest to most of the people on this board I suspect.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   Uhtred   (Member)

Doesn't sound like my cup of tea (although I'm looking forward to the film) but if it works for the film then fair enough. Paul Leonard Morgan has done some lovely orchestral work for TV so it seems a shame he's not getting that sort of assignment in film.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Well, I am sure he is a terrific - uh, programmer, of computer geek, but that is not musical composition.

I think you could say that anyone can do what he described there, there is nothing musical or artistic about it. But, apparently these guys do not see the train coming down the track - eliminating them entirely. The studios can have data-banks full of this dreck and just alter it here and there and re-use it in endless movies without any composers or musicians.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

I couldn't find any samples of the score but I listened to some of his other tracks, reminds me a little bit of Max Richter.

I have the rejected score for this, which was released as Drokk, and I love it, but I can see why they decided against it, it's very cold sounding.
Morgan sounds a lot warmer in comparison, but maybe too warm for my tastes.

I am looking forward to it, the trailer looks pretty slick, even if the character will forever be impossible to cast.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

Well, I am sure he is a terrific - uh, programmer, of computer geek, but that is not musical composition.



again with this?
it's music pal, it's music.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Well, I am sure he is a terrific - uh, programmer, of computer geek, but that is not musical composition.



again with this?
it's music pal, it's music.


So Nyborg, virtually anything and everything that is a sound at all of any kind is music.

If I record people walking across the street - yeah, that could score a movie,

If I record my typing on this keyboard and - well maybe process it somehow sure, I am a composer.

Again, absurb, just like the last thread. There is a difference between music and sound, there is a difference between recording and 'processing' sounds and composition. Your argument entirely diminishes the skill and study of people who are trained musical composers, and not just recorders and mixers of sounds.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Uhtred   (Member)

Some music from A History of Scotland by Paul Leonard Morgan for comparison.





 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

The movie is okay--starts off pretty bad (and severely limited by budget constraints), then works its way up to passable by the end. .

Would you say that it is better or worse than the previous Judge Dredd with Stallone?
Because I liked that one..

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Well, I am sure he is a terrific - uh, programmer, of computer geek, but that is not musical composition.

I think you could say that anyone can do what he described there, there is nothing musical or artistic about it. But, apparently these guys do not see the train coming down the track - eliminating them entirely. The studios can have data-banks full of this dreck and just alter it here and there and re-use it in endless movies without any composers or musicians.


I think he was making a joke.

However, like it or not Mr. Leonard Morgan is a much a composer as Jerry Goldsmith or James Horner just like Trent Reznor, Cliff Martinez, and Job Brion are composers along with John Barry.

The same caliber? The same "talent"?

All a matter of taste.

However, the composer is hired to create a work that fits the film be it traditional film score, electronic, or sound design/scape.

I think it is rather disrespectful that you can claim that there is no musical or artistic talent but then again, some people see Pollock and see paint splashed on a canvas.

No one is saying you must like it or not even speak your mind on it but show some respect to the composer.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

The samples that Uhtred posted are not good examples of what we should expect from this score... Maybe something in the vein of "Limitless"...

Anyway... wouldn't this be a great opportunity to have a new CD release with Silvestri's huge score in complete form, a 2CD set!... Ah, dreams...

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   Uhtred   (Member)

The tracks I posted were mainly for ado to show that the composer had a more diverse range than just the electronica of Limitless and now Dredd. I don't mind the Limitless score so I'm interested in hearing what Dredd sounds like. But a expanded release of Silvestri's Judge Dredd! Now you're talking.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

The tracks I posted were mainly for ado to show that the composer had a more diverse range than just the electronica of Limitless and now Dredd. I don't mind the Limitless score so I'm interested in hearing what Dredd sounds like. But a expanded release of Silvestri's Judge Dredd! Now you're talking.

ok, thanks Uhtred

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

So it's a lot like the rejected score. Surprising that the producers still wanted a 1980's sound with the new score.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

I like that material from A History Of Scotland. Elegiac & noble.... I was expecting something more culturally cliched. The composer is definitely talented.

From the brief snippet of composer thought reproduced within this thread however, I wonder if the new new Dredd score will be, umm, crunchier... as in gi-tars... . Hope not.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 6:40 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Slated for Grabdication (A History Of Scotland)...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2012 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

http://soundcloud.com/metropolis-movie-music/sets/paul-leonard-morgan-dredd

Samples here. Maybe they'll work in the film, and i know it's only samples, but this sounds unmemorable to say the least.

If it had to be in this style I'd be hoping it was something more along the lines of 28 Weeks Later and i'd be happy.

I'd heard it was Carpenter influenced but i'm seeing very little of that. Maybe very weakly in some music that is attempting to be driving. I thought that the Drokk! album would have been inappropriate for a Dredd film, and this isn't too far behind it.

But in the film, who knows? Still, another album i won't be buying it seems.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2012 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

The Dredd stuff sounds okay - the producers must have been shooting for a specific style, going from History Of Scotland to this as the composer does.

A few tracks I outright dislike (faster crunchy or just crunchier stuff), a few have a bit of Reznor in them, and alot of it sounds like Dirty Harry in a way. I find myself thinking that in a couple of instances (i.e. MegaCity One), the material from the DROKK album would have been more atmospheric and effective.

Had I the choice of either effort, I think I would have blended a few tracks from both into the final product. I would have been selectively spotting from both.

Have to see the movie.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2012 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Xebec, thanks for the link. *That* is the way to offer samples of a score...

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2012 - 2:31 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

After really ripping into the Drokk album by Portishead member Geoff Barrow, I bought it off of iTunes on a whim and really enjoyed listening to it a few times. For a Carpenter/Howard pastiche, it's actually fairly noble (the complete opposite of my initial reaction). Now, I really liked Paul Leonard Morgan's score for Limitless, and found it very overlooked, but this doesn't work for me. A few cues "have it" ("The Rise of Ma Ma") but a lot of these clips just don't play well in such a small dose, nor outside of the movie.

 
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