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 Posted:   Mar 31, 2016 - 10:58 PM   
 By:   chadergeist   (Member)

I would want these ones:

Along Came A Spider
Hollow Man
The Haunting
U.S. Marshals
Small Soldiers
Mom and Dad Save the World
Medicine Man
The Other
The Mephisto Waltz
Looney Tunes: Back In Action

 Posted:   Apr 1, 2016 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

And all of yours happen to be Varese. Be patient, they'll get around to them I'm sure. smile


 Posted:   Apr 1, 2016 - 3:35 AM   
 By:   adamclark83   (Member)

I'm still waiting for "The Mummy" (with full End Credits) and "Supergirl" (full End Credits with the synth swooshes).

 Posted:   Apr 1, 2016 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   trstnvnk   (Member)

I'm still waiting for "The Mummy" (with full End Credits) and "Supergirl" (full End Credits with the synth swooshes).

I watched The Mummy earlier this week and the End Credits music is just a cut and paste job, a very poor one at that.

 Posted:   Apr 1, 2016 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I compared the contents of the CD against the film's cue sheet. A few short cues were, I think, combined, but I think either everything is there, or everything except maybe 2 minutes or so. I suspect it's a case of the score being fairly short, so everything (or almost everything) got included on the CD.

Thanks for the info. How'd you get ahold of the official cue sheet? Anyway, when I get around to it I'll incorporate this post of yours into the first post, though I'll still leave Criminal Law on the list unless it is confirmed that the existing program is indeed the complete score and not even missing 2 minutes. smile


 Posted:   Apr 1, 2016 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)

No offense to those who like it, but an expanded Criminal Law will be the first true mark that the soundtrack album business has died.

 Posted:   Apr 1, 2016 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well, I imagine that if it does happen it will be one of the very last to be expanded to complete form. Mr. Baseball will happen first. smile

That said, it's not a bad composition; I just wish it had been performed by an orchestra.

Along those lines, though, I'd just point out that Varese has released Runaway, another not-too-popular all-synth score by Goldsmith, no less than THREE times! Their original issue, then their complete Deluxe Edition which sold out of its 2000 copies, and then an Encore Edition of their Deluxe Edition at another 2000 copies! Insane! If there's a market for that many thousand copies of Runaway, I'm guessing there's a market for a Deluxe Criminal Law...


 Posted:   Apr 1, 2016 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)

Good points. I actually think Runaway has some very good action cues that would be interesting to hear performed by an orchestra. I'm not completely anti-synth, but I do believe that an orchestra could work wonders with this score.

 Posted:   Apr 1, 2016 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Smitty, you may find Leigh Phillips's response in this thread to be interesting:

I for one would love an orchestral re-recording project of tackling substantial suites from all three Goldsmith synth scores, so they can be heard in a new light. Jerry did "orchestrate" them, after all, so they should translate well.


 Posted:   Apr 2, 2016 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Ray   (Member)

What about a new rerecording of Legend.
Using the Original synth from Jerry combining a big orchestra and choir.

 Posted:   Apr 3, 2016 - 2:34 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

What about a new rerecording of Legend.
Using the Original synth from Jerry combining a big orchestra and choir.

I'm not interested in a rerecording, but the original complete score to LEGEND, is my most wanted Goldsmith right now..

 Posted:   Apr 29, 2016 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I started this thread almost four years ago, in mid 2012. At the time, I had separated out all the titles that Varese Sarabande controlled in perpetuity, because it seemed somewhat hopeless that any (or at least, many) of them would ever get expanded treatment since no one else besides Varese could do it and they didn't seem interested.

About one and a half years later, at the end of 2013, there was a glimmer of hope: a definitive, complete version of Star Trek: Nemesis came out, surprisingly produced by Lukas Kendall and with notes by Jeff Bond, both of whom had never worked with Varese before, if I'm not mistaken. But perhaps that was just an exception, because it was a Star Trek score. Paramount themselves were said to want all of the Trek scores released in complete form. This was the thought that stuck in the heads of Goldsmith nuts over the next year, as in 2014 Varese finally gave us the premiere of The List of Adrian Messenger, but no expansion of titles they permanently controlled.

Then, less than a year ago, more hope: Varese released Gremlins 2 in complete form. Oh, but maybe there was just a drive to complete franchises -- they also put out Die Hard 2 so the complete trilogy could be out there (as they later put out Back to the Future 3). Nope! Later in the year we got Chain Reaction in complete form, and just in the past couple months we got Executive Decision with the same treatment. It feels to me like the dam has broken, and there will (hopefully) be a steady outpouring of Varese expanding their in-perpetuity titles, as long as sales are successful.

With this in mind, I have decided to completely revamp my initial post in this thread, incorporating all of the Varese in-perpetuity titles within the main detailed chronological list. I have also taken the liberty to include links to DeputyRiley's excellent "Complete Score Breakdowns" for titles he tackled, as well as the three (so far) breakdowns I did for earlier unreleased Goldsmith scores. Have a look at the updates and let me know if you have any feedback!

Also, I recently conducted an unofficial poll for what Varese in-perpetuity Goldsmith titles people would like them to tackle next. Small Soldiers was the clear winner, with Air Force One a solid runner up. If interested, you can see the results tallied near the end of this thread:

I'm of course very excited to find out what's next from Varese this year...


 Posted:   May 16, 2016 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Intrada just put out an official complete Chinatown!

I had simply written:
"Chinatown -- after Varese sells out on their current run of 3000 I suspect one of our other fine labels will actually provide a definitive version."

Well, Varese put their release on sale for $13.99 and sold it out last year, and lo and behold, we got a truly definitive release from Intrada. Incredible; so glad this masterwork has been given the treatment it deserves:


 Posted:   Aug 8, 2016 - 5:34 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

It feels like it's been a little while (a whole three months since the last Goldsmith expansion, haha), but it's thankfully time for another update to this thread!

They've been hinting at doing it for years, but Intrada has finally just announced the definitive and truly complete Rambo: First Blood Part II (unless in the future better sources are somehow found for the three cues taken from a promotional cassette):

This means we have all three Goldsmith Rambo scores in complete form from them -- won't that look nice on the shelf? I'm guessing this took so long to come out because Intrada was holding out, searching for superior stereo elements for that end credits cue which sadly they couldn't find in the end. Personally, despite the compromised audio I think the unused orchestral end credits is an amazing piece! I really hope it's included as an extra on some future new Tadlow Goldsmith recording so we can have it in the great sound quality it deserves.


 Posted:   Oct 3, 2016 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Just a note that I've been in the process of updating the first post of this thread, rewriting some entries, adding new Complete Score Breakdowns where appropriate, etc. The most significant thing is incorporating the Varese-controlled titles into the main detailed list, since they have really started expanding their in-perpetuity catalogue since this thread first began. (We've had two Varese batches without a Goldsmith expansion now; hopefully the third time will be the charm!)


 Posted:   Oct 3, 2016 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

What about a new rerecording of Legend.
Using the Original synth from Jerry combining a big orchestra and choir.

I'm not interested in a rerecording, but the original complete score to LEGEND, is my most wanted Goldsmith right now..

Me too! According to the powers that be, the Legend we have is the only one we'll ever get. Unless Goldsmith's sketches are available, and I would be all for a new recording.

-Rick O.

 Posted:   Oct 7, 2016 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

For any who missed them, I figured I would collect links for all of the Complete Score Breakdowns (some with "advance liner notes") which I have done for Goldsmith in one place. I just recently finished Damnation Alley and it was a great experience -- almost a third of the score remains unreleased, and it is some of the strongest material in the score.

FACE OF A FUGITIVE (1959) Advance Liner Notes:
TAKE HER, SHE'S MINE (1963) Complete Score Breakdown:
THE MAN (1972) Advance Liner Notes:
CRAWLSPACE (1972) Advance Liner Notes:
DO NOT FOLD, SPINDLE, OR MUTILATE (1971) Complete Score Breakdown:
The Waltons: THE CEREMONY (1972) Complete Score Breakdown:
DAMNATION ALLEY (1977) Complete Score Breakdown:

And as a bonus, here are the Goldsmith Complete Score Breakdowns done by DeputyRiley (excluding Gremlins 2, since we have since gotten that complete from Varese):
MALICE (1993):
CITY HALL (1996):
U.S. MARSHALS (1998):

And finally here are two ones external to FSM, done by others:
LEGEND (1985):
THE RUSSIA HOUSE (1990) notes by Dirk Wickenden:


 Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I have updated the first post, removing the entry I had for the Omen trilogy as a whole since Varese just put out a 40th Annivesary Edition of the first Oscar-winning score (I created a new standalone entry for The Final Conflict). I was hoping that they'd do a big Omen series box set similar to their Nightmare on Elm Street one, with all three Goldsmiths complete and remastered plus Sheffer's Omen IV and Beltrami's remake score. That probably won't happen now but this is the next best thing. Here's hoping they move on to The Final Conflict at some point in the future (still missing three cues, I believe) and perhaps even Damien: Omen II, which was complete on the DE but had disappointing sound quality for the film recording.

I also updated the entry for Legend. Sadly, as with Link from the same era, the missing cues from this will apparently never see the light of day beyond the unmentionable with shoddy sound quality. James Fitzpatrick has confirmed over and over that the 71 minute program he did for Silva Screen used the only tapes that were saved; anything else is lost and he has made clear he has no interest in doing a new Tadlow recording of the score. (I personally think it would have been great to see the score realized acoustically...)


 Posted:   Dec 17, 2016 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

It seems very unlikely now that there will be any more Goldsmith releases before the end of the year, unless Kritzerland comes out with a surprise remastered 100 Rifles reissue or something. Therefore, I want to take a moment to give thanks to all the labels who brought us Goldsmith goodies this year!

Tadlow started us out with a fine complete new recording of The Blue Max, with a great second disc of suites and themes from other Goldsmith films. The suite from Inchon was particularly welcomed by me since the original film recording has fairly poor sound quality, being recorded in a wine cellar! In its new guise it shines and sparkles like never before. The suite from The Chairman had many fans salivating over the possibility of a new complete recording of that fine score at some point in the future, but James Fitzpatrick has said he needs access to Fox's archives of the written score before that can be done. He has however confirmed that he has recorded "suites from six" of Goldsmith's Thriller scores, to be released by Tadlow next year, and intimated that if sales were good there might be a follow-up album.

La-La Land brought us two reissues -- Link and Take a Hard Ride, the latter restored by Michael Mattesino for improved sound, and new artwork by Jim Titus on both. They also included several Goldsmith items on their recent Star Trek 50th compilation: a version of Inner Workings from Star Trek: The Motion Picture with more prominent wind machine, a demo version of the Star Trek: Voyager main theme, and a prominent cue by Jay Chattaway using Goldsmith's theme from the Voyager pilot episode.

Varese gave us new definitive versions of Executive Decision and The Omen, further expanding two more of the Goldsmith titles they hold in perpetuity. (They also reissued Rudy on vinyl and The Mephisto Waltz / The Other in their Little Box of Horrors set, but I hope they revisit both titles as a Deluxe Edition at some point in the future, as Mephisto Waltz is still missing some elements and The Other a good deal of music, which has only been made available on a Twilight Time Blu-ray isolated score track.)

Pithikos Entertainment brought us an interesting project as a companion to the fine Planet of the Apes book they published last year -- a new faithful "realization" of the score using samples and some rare acoustic instruments from the original sessions:

Mondo also reissued the original Planet of the Apes recording on vinyl, as well as recently doing the same for Gremlins.

Intrada had the greatest number of Goldsmith releases of all the labels, beginning with a vinyl reissue of the complete score to Warlock, but moving on to definitive complete CD releases for Powder (completing the Hollywood Records titles), Chinatown, and Rambo: First Blood Part II. The latter was particularly exciting for including Goldsmith's original (unused) orchestral end credits, which can now join the fine orchestral end credits he wrote for the first and third scores. Interestingly he incorporated an exciting new theme not used anywhere else in the score. Since Intrada only had access to a low-fidelity tape source for the track, I am hoping Tadlow can include a new recording of this fine piece on some future Goldsmith release.

While not quite as packed a year of Goldsmith releases as the past few were, we Goldsmith nuts still got a plethora of great releases. Thank you, labels, for making this happen!


 Posted:   Dec 19, 2016 - 1:02 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Nice summary, Yavar! So I would say the only disappointing Goldsmith release in 2016 was The Mephisto Waltz / The Other. And there's perhaps not much hope for a deluxe type release in the foreseeable future! But otherwise a great year for Goldsmith. smile

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