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 Posted:   Dec 11, 2015 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

It turns out there was one final Goldsmith release this year thanks to Quartet, though it wasn't what many of us expected, because it turns out that Basic Instinct wasn't the only 90s Goldsmith title that Varese didn't get perpetuity rights for (at least international rights): say hello to 2-disc definitive Total Recall, with at least one previously unreleased unused cue, plus previously-unreleased film takes, a new alternate from the original German sessions, and all of the source music written for the film:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113049&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=623#bottom

I'm happy whenever we get a new definitive version of a Goldsmith score, and I will be buying this for the Jeff Bond notes if nothing else, but I must admit this is one Goldsmith score I have yet to warm up to, despite all the love it seems to engender.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2016 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Though the score was complete on the FSM release, this thread is worth bumping to mention LLL's upcoming remastered (and Jim Titus-packaged) reissue of Take a Hard Ride. Another Michael Mattesino restoration a la Rio Conchos...I only hope they're planning on doing 100 Rifles next because that's the Jerry western that can use the sonic upgrade the most! (Maybe they're waiting for the FSM to finally sell out.)

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113606&forumID=1&archive=0

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2016 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I've removed Executive Decision from the Varese list in the first post, thanks to their new complete release of the score. (All that it's missing is some alternates which probably weren't worth a 2nd disc.) In light of their recent continued dedication to expanding their in-perpetuity titles, I'm thinking I should re-do that first post to incorporate Varese-controlled titles into the main list, because, unlike when I started this thread, it seems likely now that we may get them!

Yavar

P.S. I've listened now to my copy of Tadlow's The Blue Max and it is fantastic!

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2016 - 12:53 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Time for a new update, due to Intrada's wonderful new complete Powder, newly mastered from the 48-track tapes and featuring almost twice as much music as the previous issue. I had written:

"Powder (Hollywood Records --> Disney) -- would probably have to be Intrada, and as they've worked out complete releases of the other two Hollywood Records Goldsmith albums (Deep Rising and The Ghost and the Darkness) I'd say this one is pretty likely to come up soon!"

So glad to see the Hollywood Records Goldsmith trilogy completed! Wow those non-Varese-controlled 90s Goldsmith scores sure are dwindling...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2016 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   trstnvnk   (Member)

Time for a new update, due to Intrada's wonderful new complete Powder, newly mastered from the 48-track tapes and featuring almost twice as much music as the previous issue. I had written:

"Powder (Hollywood Records --> Disney) -- would probably have to be Intrada, and as they've worked out complete releases of the other two Hollywood Records Goldsmith albums (Deep Rising and The Ghost and the Darkness) I'd say this one is pretty likely to come up soon!"

So glad to see the Hollywood Records Goldsmith trilogy completed! Wow those non-Varese-controlled 90s Goldsmith scores sure are dwindling...

Yavar


Never owned the original release, looking forward to this one.

Here's hoping Intrada will release Mulan someday, cause it seems Disney has stopped their Legacy releases.

Watched The Mummy today. Surprised how well that movie has aged, it's still as much fun as it was back in '99. While the soundtrack contains all the essentials, there's still some cool stuff missing.

Chain Reaction and Executive Decision should arrive some time this week, can't wait to play those bad boys. Curious what Varese's next Goldsmith title will be.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2016 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   kaseykockroach   (Member)

It'd better not be Leviathan, Matinee, Small Soldiers or The Haunting. I indulged in a lot of extra spending recently (Poltergeist 2, Total Recall, Warlock and Silvestri's Judge Dredd), and really need to save money for Texas Frightmare Weekend. C'mon, release something boring like Rudy or something, I won't mind! razz

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2016 - 9:06 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Curious what Varese's next Goldsmith title will be.

Well they certainly have quite a few potential expandable titles to choose from!

Sooner or later I think there will be more unexpanded Goldsmith titles that can only be done by Varese than unexpanded Goldsmith titles that aren't in their control.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2016 - 9:12 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I hope it's either U.S. Marshals, Air Force One or Along Came a Spider...

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2016 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Taste is a funny thing -- I'd happily buy those of course but they interest me far less than a complete The Haunting, Small Soldiers, or Medicine Man (not to mention The Other!) smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2016 - 1:21 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I hope Intrada continues looking into Hollywood Records titles, by the way. A quick search showsa these titles I'd love to have expanded:

  • "Father of the Bride II"
  • "The Rocketeer" (I hope the trailer music by Christopher Page is included)
  • "The Crow"
  • "Signs"
  • "Les Misérables" (only to get -- hopefully -- the rejected Yared score)
  • "Operation: Dumbo Drop"

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     Posted:   Mar 30, 2016 - 1:47 AM   
     By:   Warlok   (Member)


    Damnation Alley -- Until someone either finds or re-records the missing synth parts, this will almost certainly remain unreleased. If the former occurs, this'll probably come out on Varese.


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     Posted:   Mar 30, 2016 - 10:20 AM   
     By:   trstnvnk   (Member)

    Curious what Varese's next Goldsmith title will be.

    Well they certainly have quite a few potential expandable titles to choose from!

    Sooner or later I think there will be more unexpanded Goldsmith titles that can only be done by Varese than unexpanded Goldsmith titles that aren't in their control.

    Yavar


    With the exception of Mulan and The Mummy, all titles I want to see expanded are controlled by Varese (what can I say, I'm mostly a 90's kinda guy).

    If I were to make a top 5 of my Goldsmith wish list, it would look something like this:

    The Haunting
    Small Soldiers
    Mulan
    L.A. Confidential
    The Mummy

     
     Posted:   Mar 30, 2016 - 12:43 PM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    Well, that makes sense, but still striking that almost half of your top five 90s wants still aren't Varese. smile

    Let's see, limiting to incomplete Goldsmith titles recorded after 1989 (and omitting for the time being any unreleased rejected scores that may exist such as Babe, The Kid, or The Public Eye), the tally of remaining titles is thus:

    19 Varese (20 if we want to be generous and include the almost-90s Leviathan, which they might control in perpetuity along with the 90s-on titles)

    *only 7 non-Varese* -- and that's including the short Soarin' Over California (only the actual ride score is released, the line music and exit music also by Goldsmith are unreleased) and Six Degrees of Separation, which might (probably?) not have any unreleased music to include on a potential expansion. So really it's only 5 titles left from that era that aren't Varese-controlled: The Last Castle, The Mummy, Mulan, 2 Days in the Valley (actually this one is possibly a stretch as well since we don't know how much music Goldsmith chose not to include in his original album program which Intrada released a few years back), and The Russia House.

    I would expect that we'll soon see a complete release for The Last Castle and The Mummy (barring any "ongoing franchise" limitations from the studio, as is the problem with stuff like Harry Potter and Jurassic Park). I am more hopeful about Mulan now after Disney Legacy Editions seem to be on hiatus at least, and Intrada put out The Rescuers Down Under in complete form. 2 Days in the Valley seems unlikely for an expansion any time soon, since I don't even know if the complete recording sessions exist at this point since presumably all Intrada could find was the album master (and since it wasn't used in the film we don't even know how much more might have been written/recorded). Finally, I'm sure The Russia House will come in complete form sooner or later but as only 10 minutes or so are missing I'm guessing it's not the highest on any label's list of priorities. But with the available 90s Goldsmith dwindling and us getting re-reissues of stuff like Link, who knows? It may be coming sooner than I think!

    But roughly four fifths of the remaining "90s Goldsmith" titles to be expanded are Varese-controlled, so we'll just be waiting on them with bated breath! smile

    Yavar

     
     Posted:   Mar 30, 2016 - 2:26 PM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    For the curious, I've done the same for other decades, trying to include TV movies but not shows:

    1980s: 13 (potentially 5 of these in Varese control: Leviathan, Criminal Law, Lionheart, Raggedy Man, and The Final Conflict)

    1970s: 24 (potentially 4 of these in Varese control: The Other, The Mephisto Waltz, The Omen and Damien: Omen II)

    1960s & 50s: 11 (3 of these in Varese control: Our Man Flint, In Like Flint, and Planet of the Apes for unreleased alternates and it could use a remaster.)

    Yavar

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 30, 2016 - 2:35 PM   
     By:   Jameson281   (Member)

    For the curious, I've done the same for other decades:

    1980s: 13 (potentially 5 of these in Varese control: Leviathan, Criminal Law, Lionheart, Raggedy Man, and The Final Conflict)

    1970s: 24 (potentially 4 of these in Varese control: The Other, The Mephisto Waltz, The Omen and Damien: Omen II)

    I'll do 1960s (and I guess I'll also include the few 50s films) shortly.

    Yavar


    I think the CRIMINAL LAW CD is the complete score; if anything is missing, it's very short.

     
     Posted:   Mar 31, 2016 - 8:41 AM   
     By:   stroppy   (Member)

    "Lilies of the Field" was released on LP but I believe there was quite a bit more of the incidental score that was never publicly released.

    https://youtu.be/_fGrV7jd7ok

     
     Posted:   Mar 31, 2016 - 12:16 PM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


    I think the CRIMINAL LAW CD is the complete score; if anything is missing, it's very short.


    It'd be unusual for a Varese album of the era to be a complete score. (In fact it is extremely unusual for any original Goldsmith album to include the complete score...though Damien: Omen II, Patton, and Stagecoach are all very close to it since they are briefer scores. But all three of those were also re-recordings, not the film recordings. I think perhaps A Patch of Blue was complete from the very first issue?) I'd be interested for someone to do a Complete Score Breakdown for Criminal Law upon watching the film.

    stroppy, about how much more music do you think there in in Lilies of the Field compared with the existing album? I'd be very interested for someone to give a rundown on the isolated score track when it comes out.

    Yavar

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 31, 2016 - 12:42 PM   
     By:   paul rossen   (Member)

    Has anyone mentioned Papillon?

     
     Posted:   Mar 31, 2016 - 1:34 PM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    Well, at least one person has -- me, in my first post! smile Such a great score...perhaps even a candidate for Jerry's best ever.

    Yavar

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 31, 2016 - 2:29 PM   
     By:   Jameson281   (Member)


    I think the CRIMINAL LAW CD is the complete score; if anything is missing, it's very short.


    It'd be unusual for a Varese album of the era to be a complete score. (In fact it is extremely unusual for any original Goldsmith album to include the complete score...though Damien: Omen II, Patton, and Stagecoach are all very close to it since they are briefer scores. But all three of those were also re-recordings, not the film recordings. I think perhaps A Patch of Blue was complete from the very first issue?) I'd be interested for someone to do a Complete Score Breakdown for Criminal Law upon watching the film.


    I compared the contents of the CD against the film's cue sheet. A few short cues were, I think, combined, but I think either everything is there, or everything except maybe 2 minutes or so. I suspect it's a case of the score being fairly short, so everything (or almost everything) got included on the CD.

     
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