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Jim:
Nice to see Satie singled out. I have sooooooooooooooooo much of his music, having discovered the Gymnopédies and Gnossiennes just out of high school, and later various transcriptions of them. But, in their originals, I've always loved those by Philippe Entremont, and his set with Daniel Varsaro in their album "Satie: Piano Works" is sometimes quite magical. The orchestral collection "Satie: Parade; Relâche; Mercure, Etc." conducted by Ronald Corp with the New London Orchestra, includes "Parade; Relâche; Mercure," and more, and I've enjoyed it as long as I've had it. Think I'll take a listen to some of that on my next walk!
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Jim: Re: As I mentioned in my initial post, I first heard *of* Satie about 1992, when another artist I was obsessing over at the time, Tim Buckley, mentioned him frequently in interviews as being an influence. I wish to hell I had embraced Satie all those years ago because I can never get enough of the stuff.
So you missed it when Blood, Sweat & Tears did variations of, as I recall, Satie's Gymnopédie #3? (Wait ... according to this, it was the 1st and 2nd.)
http://youtu.be/m6f_uj6qCFM
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Jun 18, 2014 - 12:04 PM
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TerraEpon
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Ok well you asked for it...
It's kinda hard to put into a parallel, but just bear with me a minute.
I was going to try and give a parellel to film scores but it's very difficult given the whole OST vs minimal other recordings issue so I'll be a little more straightforward...
Basically, classical music has a group of pieces known as "the repertoire". There's no specific definition for this, and when it comes down to it it's actually quite a large number of pieces. But these are the pieces that get recorded over and over, that if you go to a concert or recital there's a VERY good chance most, if not, all of it will be made up of these pieces,.
Even the most famous and well known composers have huge swaths of music that don't get attention, to say nothing of some composers that have only a few pieces that really do.
And the large majority of classical lovers seem to consider this a good thing -- often coping the attitude that "the other stuff is second rate anyway".
Recording after recording of, for instance, Tchaikovsky's first piano concerto, Vivaldi's four violin concerti with seasonal nicknames, Beethoven's symphonies and Sibelius's violin concerto come out. These days there might be a 'hook' of some sort to make the artist seem innovative somehow (especially with Vivaldi) but no matter.
While there are plenty of labels, especially in the last 10 years, releasing a lot more obscure works and composers, there's still a huge disjunct there. You go to a 'general' classical music forum and say, for instance, your favorite composer is Sibelius and people would expect you to have seven different symphony cycles and many other individual symphony recordings. And of course there's some of those anyone who's a 'Sibeliuan' would have to have. And of course, they wouldn't even think about asking about Sibelius's piano music because everyone knows it's boring pedestrian parlor music he only wrote to feed his alcohol habit.
So in other words, people seem to expect those who buy a lot of classical CDs to have as a...core...a certain set of pieces and a certain set of recordings, as if anyone who doesn't isn't an actual fan.
I own well over 2500 CDs of classical music, and thousands more tracks of Mp3 and FLAC, yet I have a single recording of Beethoven's 6th Symphony, a single one of Brahms's 4th Symphony, and not even one of Schubert's 9th Symphony. I'm missing a number of Mozart's piano concerti, have a single organ music disc by Bach, and no recordings at all of concerti by Chopin or Schumann.
For some people the above paragraph would seem impossible. For me, I just don't get how someone could have ten recordings of a symphony and on top of THAT be able to choose which to listen to based on mood.
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Jun 18, 2014 - 8:42 PM
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JohnnyG
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Ok well you asked for it...
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I own well over 2500 CDs of classical music, and thousands more tracks of Mp3 and FLAC, yet I have a single recording of Beethoven's 6th Symphony, a single one of Brahms's 4th Symphony, and not even one of Schubert's 9th Symphony. I'm missing a number of Mozart's piano concerti, have a single organ music disc by Bach, and no recordings at all of concerti by Chopin or Schumann.
For some people the above paragraph would seem impossible. For me, I just don't get how someone could have ten recordings of a symphony and on top of THAT be able to choose which to listen to based on mood.
Hmm, alright, you're forgiven for the Chopin omission!...
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Jun 21, 2014 - 7:35 AM
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Jim Phelps
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So in other words, people seem to expect those who buy a lot of classical CDs to have as a...core...a certain set of pieces and a certain set of recordings, as if anyone who doesn't isn't an actual fan.
I own well over 2500 CDs of classical music, and thousands more tracks of Mp3 and FLAC, yet I have a single recording of Beethoven's 6th Symphony, a single one of Brahms's 4th Symphony, and not even one of Schubert's 9th Symphony. I'm missing a number of Mozart's piano concerti, have a single organ music disc by Bach, and no recordings at all of concerti by Chopin or Schumann.
For some people the above paragraph would seem impossible. For me, I just don't get how someone could have ten recordings of a symphony and on top of THAT be able to choose which to listen to based on mood.
I appreciate the reply! My classical music interest doesn't come anywhere near what others like and have in their collections. I simply "discover" a piece I enjoy and it's usually by chance that another version of such-and-such a piece finds me and I proceed to enjoy the hell out of that. This is partially why my twenty-five-year-long interest in classical music has never developed into a full-fledged passion. I don't seek the stuff out; it finds me. However, with Satie I have started to change that, so the poster making specific recommendations is most welcome.
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I love what little I have heard of Satie. Gnossienne 1 is a great favorite of mine. I also like the orchestrated version that was in the film Chocolat--and finally tracked down that performance. Peace Piece by Bill Evans sounds inspired by Gnossienne 1. John Cage was also inspired by Satie.
I mentioned on another thread that I'm planning a Paris trip this summer--if the virus allows--and I'm looking forward to walking the streets of Satie's Montmartre.
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Coolest composer picture ever that does not also include Jane Birkin.
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