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 Posted:   Jun 15, 2014 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

All you Satie lovers, at least one of these three albums - especially the first one - must be in your collections:


No.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2014 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Jim:

Nice to see Satie singled out. I have sooooooooooooooooo much of his music, having discovered the Gymnopédies and Gnossiennes just out of high school, and later various transcriptions of them. But, in their originals, I've always loved those by Philippe Entremont, and his set with Daniel Varsaro in their album "Satie: Piano Works" is sometimes quite magical. The orchestral collection "Satie: Parade; Relâche; Mercure, Etc." conducted by Ronald Corp with the New London Orchestra, includes "Parade; Relâche; Mercure," and more, and I've enjoyed it as long as I've had it. Think I'll take a listen to some of that on my next walk!

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2014 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I've heard the Pascal Roge album recommended above but unfortunately it imo falls under the "played at (slightly) too fast a tempo" for my liking. Looks like even I've been afflicted with that pesky OCD that many classical listeners have.

As I mentioned in my initial post, I first heard *of* Satie about 1992, when another artist I was obsessing over at the time, Tim Buckley, mentioned him frequently in interviews as being an influence. I wish to hell I had embraced Satie all those years ago because I can never get enough of the stuff.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2014 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

All you Satie lovers, at least one of these three albums - especially the first one - must be in your collections:

No.


What would your Satie album suggestions be, TerraEpon?

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2014 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Jim: Re: As I mentioned in my initial post, I first heard *of* Satie about 1992, when another artist I was obsessing over at the time, Tim Buckley, mentioned him frequently in interviews as being an influence. I wish to hell I had embraced Satie all those years ago because I can never get enough of the stuff.

So you missed it when Blood, Sweat & Tears did variations of, as I recall, Satie's Gymnopédie #3? (Wait ... according to this, it was the 1st and 2nd.)

http://youtu.be/m6f_uj6qCFM

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2014 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)



What would your Satie album suggestions be, TerraEpon?


Well....if I had more time I'd go into why such statements as what I quoted annoy me. But FWIW, there's a great 2 CD set of orchestral -- and orchestrated -- music on the Vanguard label, and a Naxos disc of orchestral music that includes an orchestrated version of the film score "Cinema"

For piano, Jean-Yves Thibaudet's complete set is enjoyable, and another in another film connection, Michael Legrand of all people recorded a single CD of selections.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2014 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)



What would your Satie album suggestions be, TerraEpon?


Well....if I had more time I'd go into why such statements as what I quoted annoy me. But FWIW, there's a great 2 CD set of orchestral -- and orchestrated -- music on the Vanguard label, and a Naxos disc of orchestral music that includes an orchestrated version of the film score "Cinema"

For piano, Jean-Yves Thibaudet's complete set is enjoyable, and another in another film connection, Michael Legrand of all people recorded a single CD of selections.



I'd like to hear that.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Well....if I had more time I'd go into why such statements as what I quoted annoy me. But FWIW, there's a great 2 CD set of orchestral -- and orchestrated -- music on the Vanguard label, and a Naxos disc of orchestral music that includes an orchestrated version of the film score "Cinema"

For piano, Jean-Yves Thibaudet's complete set is enjoyable, and another in another film connection, Michael Legrand of all people recorded a single CD of selections.


Perhaps it was the poster's use of "you Satie lovers", as if we were being belittled for our taste?

Thanks for the Legrand album mention. What I'd really like to know if there have been any recent film scores that either use Satie music or adapt his style.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Ok well you asked for it...

It's kinda hard to put into a parallel, but just bear with me a minute.
I was going to try and give a parellel to film scores but it's very difficult given the whole OST vs minimal other recordings issue so I'll be a little more straightforward...

Basically, classical music has a group of pieces known as "the repertoire". There's no specific definition for this, and when it comes down to it it's actually quite a large number of pieces. But these are the pieces that get recorded over and over, that if you go to a concert or recital there's a VERY good chance most, if not, all of it will be made up of these pieces,.

Even the most famous and well known composers have huge swaths of music that don't get attention, to say nothing of some composers that have only a few pieces that really do.
And the large majority of classical lovers seem to consider this a good thing -- often coping the attitude that "the other stuff is second rate anyway".

Recording after recording of, for instance, Tchaikovsky's first piano concerto, Vivaldi's four violin concerti with seasonal nicknames, Beethoven's symphonies and Sibelius's violin concerto come out. These days there might be a 'hook' of some sort to make the artist seem innovative somehow (especially with Vivaldi) but no matter.
While there are plenty of labels, especially in the last 10 years, releasing a lot more obscure works and composers, there's still a huge disjunct there. You go to a 'general' classical music forum and say, for instance, your favorite composer is Sibelius and people would expect you to have seven different symphony cycles and many other individual symphony recordings. And of course there's some of those anyone who's a 'Sibeliuan' would have to have. And of course, they wouldn't even think about asking about Sibelius's piano music because everyone knows it's boring pedestrian parlor music he only wrote to feed his alcohol habit.

So in other words, people seem to expect those who buy a lot of classical CDs to have as a...core...a certain set of pieces and a certain set of recordings, as if anyone who doesn't isn't an actual fan.
I own well over 2500 CDs of classical music, and thousands more tracks of Mp3 and FLAC, yet I have a single recording of Beethoven's 6th Symphony, a single one of Brahms's 4th Symphony, and not even one of Schubert's 9th Symphony. I'm missing a number of Mozart's piano concerti, have a single organ music disc by Bach, and no recordings at all of concerti by Chopin or Schumann.
For some people the above paragraph would seem impossible. For me, I just don't get how someone could have ten recordings of a symphony and on top of THAT be able to choose which to listen to based on mood.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

Well....if I had more time I'd go into why such statements as what I quoted annoy me. But FWIW, there's a great 2 CD set of orchestral -- and orchestrated -- music on the Vanguard label, and a Naxos disc of orchestral music that includes an orchestrated version of the film score "Cinema"

For piano, Jean-Yves Thibaudet's complete set is enjoyable, and another in another film connection, Michael Legrand of all people recorded a single CD of selections.


Perhaps it was the poster's use of "you Satie lovers", as if we were being belittled for our taste?

Thanks for the Legrand album mention. What I'd really like to know if there have been any recent film scores that either use Satie music or adapt his style.



Only I'm a Satie lover too!

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

Ok well you asked for it...

...

I own well over 2500 CDs of classical music, and thousands more tracks of Mp3 and FLAC, yet I have a single recording of Beethoven's 6th Symphony, a single one of Brahms's 4th Symphony, and not even one of Schubert's 9th Symphony. I'm missing a number of Mozart's piano concerti, have a single organ music disc by Bach, and no recordings at all of concerti by Chopin or Schumann.
For some people the above paragraph would seem impossible. For me, I just don't get how someone could have ten recordings of a symphony and on top of THAT be able to choose which to listen to based on mood.



Hmm, alright, you're forgiven for the Chopin omission!...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 2:53 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Well actually the Chopin piano concerti are kind of a thing that I just never got around to. A lot of the problem is the sheer overwhelingness of choice makes it difficult to choose even one.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   davel   (Member)

I've always loved Satie's music. My favourite by far is The Piano Music of Eric Satie, Vol 1 - 6, by Aldo Ciccolini on the Angel label.

From the album cover - "Aldo Ciccolini is at his wittiest best in these sardonic, deceptively wrought works by Eric Satie . . . telling rapport between pianist and composer . . ."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Lvqoqjwfv-c

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2014 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

So in other words, people seem to expect those who buy a lot of classical CDs to have as a...core...a certain set of pieces and a certain set of recordings, as if anyone who doesn't isn't an actual fan.

I own well over 2500 CDs of classical music, and thousands more tracks of Mp3 and FLAC, yet I have a single recording of Beethoven's 6th Symphony, a single one of Brahms's 4th Symphony, and not even one of Schubert's 9th Symphony. I'm missing a number of Mozart's piano concerti, have a single organ music disc by Bach, and no recordings at all of concerti by Chopin or Schumann.

For some people the above paragraph would seem impossible. For me, I just don't get how someone could have ten recordings of a symphony and on top of THAT be able to choose which to listen to based on mood.


I appreciate the reply! My classical music interest doesn't come anywhere near what others like and have in their collections. I simply "discover" a piece I enjoy and it's usually by chance that another version of such-and-such a piece finds me and I proceed to enjoy the hell out of that. This is partially why my twenty-five-year-long interest in classical music has never developed into a full-fledged passion. I don't seek the stuff out; it finds me. However, with Satie I have started to change that, so the poster making specific recommendations is most welcome.

 
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