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 Posted:   Jul 18, 2012 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

What? Who?

This is a 1987 adventure potboiler produced by Golan-Globus in the formula of ROMANCING THE STONE about a girl who unwittingly gets involved in the robbery of a Mexican artifact, criminals and various forms of deception. It's obscure for a reason and while it tries to have a complex plotline, it ends up being confusing. Still, it's not without its charm and Charles Rocket is always fun to watch. Also includes a brief cameo by a young Courteney Cox.

The music is by Eric Allaman under the pseudonym of 'Berlin Game', whatever that is. Allaman has scored quite a few movies (mostly television) and is perhaps best known for his work with Tangerine Dream on LEGEND. The score is a hybrid of 80's synth pop and Tangerine Dream grooves, sprinkled with various exotic instruments and sounds for the Mexican locale. Except for the dated and cheesy trumpet samples, I liked it!

But the REAL reason I saw this was the appearance of Oingo Boingo's "No One Lives Forever", which is featured over the action-filled prologue and the main titles. That is, an edited version which features more of the instrumental bits. As some of you know, I've been trying to see ALL movies featuring Oingo Boingo songs for this earlier FSM article:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/daily/article.cfm/articleID/6311/Oingo-Boingo-at-the-Movies!/

I will now have to add this film to the list.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2012 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   Redokt64   (Member)

Thor

I have always loved this movie. Just a lot of fun and done in a very slick style. Let us not forget a very game cast. Carey Lowell... bestill my heart. And, look quick for Courteney Cox in the opening of the film.

For the music, thanks for shedding some light on this. I still have the old Varese lp... one open, one sealed. Have played it many a time.

Richard

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2012 - 11:31 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

I remember hating this movie, but I knew Allaman socially in the early 80s, so I was glad he got to score a movie, and I still have the Varese LP.

I remember hearing from our mutual friend that Allaman was helping out Tangerine Dream with the rescore of Legend, which was the first I heard that Goldsmith was out. That was not a happy day for a 24-year-old Goldsmith obsessive.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2012 - 3:22 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Hey, I didn't even know there was an LP! Thanks for the heads-up. I googled the track listing and found out it only included Allaman's score, not the edited version of "No One Lives Forever" or any other song.

This is a REAL relic from the 80's...as a film, it only exists as VHS and as soundtrack it only exists as LP! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2012 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   Redokt64   (Member)

Hey, I didn't even know there was an LP! Thanks for the heads-up. I googled the track listing and found out it only included Allaman's score, not the edited version of "No One Lives Forever" or any other song.

This is a REAL relic from the 80's...as a film, it only exists as VHS and as soundtrack it only exists as LP! smile



Loved the Oingo Boingo song opening the picture... not to mention the fantastic end, featuring the cover of Suspicious Minds, performed by Fine Young Cannibals.

I actually broke out the lp and gave it a spin this morning... putting the old vhs tape in after work today. Yup... lost in the 80's. smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2012 - 6:21 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Did you see this on VHS, Thor? :-D

Interesting. The LP is for sale at Amazon. Is there any sound clips anywhere? Didn't find any on youtube. The director of Down Twisted, Albert Puyn, hired Michel Rubini on the 1992 film Nemesis, one of the few Rubini-scores that has been released. Puyn has done lots of other stuff, but why he didn't hire Paul Hertzog for the Kickboxer-sequels is beyond me.

I didn't really know that Allaman worked with Tangerine Dream on Legend. Maybe the band considered him a possible replacement for Johannes Schmoelling, who quit immediately after Legend? Instead, Paul Haslinger took the place.

I think Allaman lived in Berlin during these years, but calling himself Berlin Game is a bit weird.

He says in an interview on his site that his mother is from Norway!

http://www.ericallaman.com/index.html

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2012 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

No, I didn't watch it on VHS; rather a VHS rip. I've never seen it anywhere.

I also tried to find some sound clips online, but no luck so far.

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2012 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   madmovyman   (Member)

This gem is actually one of my very favorite films. I still have the old vhs, but no player. I still have the lp, but no turntable. I keep hoping that someone will have the good sense to cd and dvd it before I'm dead. I would really like to see and hear it again.

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2012 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

This gem is actually one of my very favorite films. I still have the old vhs, but no player. I still have the lp, but no turntable. I keep hoping that someone will have the good sense to cd and dvd it before I'm dead. I would really like to see and hear it again.

I could never dream of throwing my VCR and LP-player away.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2012 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Redokt64   (Member)

With First Breath on that... still (of course) have my vhs and lp players. Too much stuff still not available on any other formats and still want to enjoy them. Glad to take the Down Twisted re-visit today. Love it.

Speaking of Albert Pyun and Carey Lowell... Another film from around the same time was Dangerously Close. Another gem of film. Stylish, well-executed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2012 - 9:31 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)


Speaking of Albert Pyun and Carey Lowell... Another film from around the same time was Dangerously Close. Another gem of film. Stylish, well-executed.



Another good choice... back around this time I had a daily feature at my radio station reviewing new movies on video - VHS back then! - and I recall giving high marks to both movies, especially Dangerously Close.


But back to Allaman...this is the first I'd ever heard of anyone working with Tangerine Dream on the Legend re-score. It is entirely possible, since it was done in such a tight time frame, but I've never ever run across a mention of TD "co-composing" the score with anyone.

Froese has mentioned Legend in interviews, so has Johannes Schmoelling, but neither have mentioned Allaman. Ridley Scott mentions TD by name when discussing the score but never Eric Allaman.

Anyone have any idea exactly what he contributed to the score? One cue, a handful ? He lists himself as "co-composing" the score, which indicates a substantial amount of work. Hmmmm. I'm really curious as to what portions of the movie he scored, as he apparently captured the TD sound really well !

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2012 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)


Speaking of Albert Pyun and Carey Lowell... Another film from around the same time was Dangerously Close. Another gem of film. Stylish, well-executed.



Another good choice... back around this time I had a daily feature at my radio station reviewing new movies on video - VHS back then! - and I recall giving high marks to both movies, especially Dangerously Close.


But back to Allaman...this is the first I'd ever heard of anyone working with Tangerine Dream on the Legend re-score. It is entirely possible, since it was done in such a tight time frame, but I've never ever run across a mention of TD "co-composing" the score with anyone.

Froese has mentioned Legend in interviews, so has Johannes Schmoelling, but neither have mentioned Allaman. Ridley Scott mentions TD by name when discussing the score but never Eric Allaman.

Anyone have any idea exactly what he contributed to the score? One cue, a handful ? He lists himself as "co-composing" the score, which indicates a substantial amount of work. Hmmmm. I'm really curious as to what portions of the movie he scored, as he apparently captured the TD sound really well !


The Voices In The Net-site does not list Allaman as co-composer on the tracks:

http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/legend.htm

But he has got one track on this Legend bootleg:

http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/legend_2005.htm

And here, Allaman is suddenly co-composer on all tracks:

http://morefantasticcolors.blogspot.no/2012/07/tangerine-dream-legend-ost-1985.html

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2012 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

bump

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2012 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)


The Voices In The Net-site does not list Allaman as co-composer on the tracks:

http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/legend.htm

But he has got one track on this Legend bootleg:

http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/legend_2005.htm

And here, Allaman is suddenly co-composer on all tracks:

http://morefantasticcolors.blogspot.no/2012/07/tangerine-dream-legend-ost-1985.html



Interesting, on that "unofficial" Legend, that Allaman track, like some others on that CD, actually has nothing to do with the film at all ( like, United Goblins Parade, is a TD album track 20 years after the movie & has no connection to the movie ).

Then the composers tracklisting on "Fantastic Colors" website is a combination of the credits from the Buysoundtrax version of Legend... and Froese/Franke/Schmoelling ).

It is doubtful Allaman made a significant contribution to the actual movie score. Maybe he composed the trailer music ?

But he almost certainly isn't the "co-composer" of the score

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)


The Voices In The Net-site does not list Allaman as co-composer on the tracks:

http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/legend.htm

But he has got one track on this Legend bootleg:

http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/legend_2005.htm

And here, Allaman is suddenly co-composer on all tracks:

http://morefantasticcolors.blogspot.no/2012/07/tangerine-dream-legend-ost-1985.html



Interesting, on that "unofficial" Legend, that Allaman track, like some others on that CD, actually has nothing to do with the film at all ( like, United Goblins Parade, is a TD album track 20 years after the movie & has no connection to the movie ).

Then the composers tracklisting on "Fantastic Colors" website is a combination of the credits from the Buysoundtrax version of Legend... and Froese/Franke/Schmoelling ).

It is doubtful Allaman made a significant contribution to the actual movie score. Maybe he composed the trailer music ?

But he almost certainly isn't the "co-composer" of the score


United Goblins Parade is from 1996's Goblins Club album.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2012 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   Scott Atkins   (Member)

I remember seeing this film back in the 80's for one reason and one reason only...Carey Lowell. If memory serves, it's not that good of a film... But I would take another look at it!

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Any sound clips of this?

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I don't know, but you can watch the whole damn film here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDDwIKMxCqI

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I don't know, but you can watch the whole damn film here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDDwIKMxCqI


Yeah. A pity no score is on the end credits, but it seems like a score I would like. The LP is still available from various sources.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2013 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I don't know, but you can watch the whole damn film here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDDwIKMxCqI


Yeah. A pity no score is on the end credits, but it seems like a score I would like. The LP is still available from various sources.


Let me know if you ever get hold of one. I'd love to have one myself, but I don't have a turntable.

 
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