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 Posted:   Aug 3, 2014 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Simon and who?

Simon and you're a cunt, and if I ever come across you in real life, you'll die horribly, you fucking Norwegian piece of fucking filth.

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Ah, the forgotten verse from "Bridge Over Troubled Water"

big grin


No, it's the lost verse from "For Emily, Whenever I May Find Her."

big grin big grin

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2014 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I thought it was the lost verse from 'Cecilia', after he comes back from washing his face and the guy does down the fire-escape.

The thing about S&G is that, like Shakespeare, the songs appeal to different stages of life, and your favourites will change. This isn't just to do with nostalgia and regression, but with the universality and MATURITY of the songs. You feel that the excellent songs are the product of excellent psyches. It's impossible to pick. 'The Boxer' and 'America' today, maybe something else on another day.

They have a unique place. They stand in the mode of the mediaeval troubadours and keep that tradition alive. Structure, musicianship, lyrics, meaning, they excel at everything, every song is as perfect as it might be.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2014 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

There are too many for me to single out one, but I'll name a personal favorite which nobody else has mentioned:

"Punky's Dilemma."

Incidentally, I first heard the song when S & G performed it for a dance by Fred Astaire and Barrie Chase on Fred's 1968 TV special. To this day, whenever I listen to BOOKENDS, I wish they'd used the original TV version which to me was a much better, more dreamlike, arrangement. Presumably, Simon had second thoughts and re-worked it for the LP. Too bad. Maybe some day they'll dig the first version out of the vault and put it in the ultimate Simon collection. (Simon happens to live in my home town in Conecticut. Maybe some day I'll bump into him at the supermarket, in which case I'll suggest it.)

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NON SEQUITOR: I don't suppose anybody knows why S & G screw up the rhyme scheme of "Baby Driver" by singing "I wonder how your engines feel" instead of "I wonder how your engine feels"? I can only guess that somebody at Columbia insisted on censoring the double entendre...

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2014 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The thing about S&G is that, like Shakespeare, the songs appeal to different stages of life, and your favourites will change. This isn't just to do with nostalgia and regression, but with the universality and MATURITY of the songs. You feel that the excellent songs are the product of excellent psyches. It's impossible to pick. 'The Boxer' and 'America' today, maybe something else on another day.


Well stated, though I believe all great art "changes" as we change, or rather we "find" things in songs, books, films et al. that we just didn't notice before, until we have, for lack of a better term, lived it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2014 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Some great songs from them down the years.
Two I really like are;
the one made more famous by Harper's Bazarre (Feeling Groovy) and Art's solo effort for Watership Down (Bright Eyes).
Two great songs...one happy and chirpy and the other sad and wistful.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2014 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   sherocks   (Member)

I made it through a couple of rough years on The Boxer

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2014 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   DOGBELLE   (Member)



their folk l/p

Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2014 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


Well stated, though I believe all great art "changes" as we change, or rather we "find" things in songs, books, films et al. that we just didn't notice before, until we have, for lack of a better term, lived it.



Quite right. I've been little short of scathing about Charles Dickens, based mainly on tv adaptations of various of his books. After having it sat by my bedside for a year and a half, I finally picked up Bleak House, and although it took me about a hundred pages I got hooked and will be sorry when I get to the end after 750 pages of Victorian drama. I honestly don't believe I would have had the maturity to stick with it until the last few years.

And Kev's choice of Feelin' Groovy for S&G is a great one that I'd forgotten about.

TG

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2015 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

It has "come to my attention" wink that Miley Cyrus has an impressive cover of Paul Simon's "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover" and before you aging hippies think I've snapped my cap (again), take a listen to it. I've never heard her sing anything before but she does a fine job with "50 Ways..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxIAFTWy_Pc

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2015 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

SIMPLE- They never did a bad song together.

Though Simon was never fond of "The Dangling Conversation", "At The Zoo" or "Fakin' it" despite being fine songs.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2015 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Well, Art was always skeptical of key changes in his cages.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2017 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

It's strictly a matter of taste, but though I enjoy some of Aretha Franklin's songs, I just never warmed to her take on "Bridge Over Troubled Water."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2017 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

It's strictly a matter of taste, but though I enjoy some of Aretha Franklin's songs, I just never warmed to her take on "Bridge Over Troubled Water."

I've been listening to some of Paul Simon's solo stuff recently, and I can't warm to his more "gospel/rhythmic" approach to that song.

His Heart And Bones album is a good listen for one of his more underrated efforts. Originally intended as a S&G album, before Artie got on his nerves with it. Also, Simon is recording a new "African influenced" album apparently.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2017 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

When they were a duo everything was just about a knock out of the ballpark. When you split hair, I guess Garfunkel's Breakaway sounds better to me than Simon's Graceland.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2017 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

I really like "Me and Julio, down by the school yard"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtRal_mv4x4

And definitely "The Sounds of Silence" and all THE GRADUATE songs they did.

Dang, all their stuff is choice!!!!

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2017 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'll have to give the Still Crazy After All These Years album another listen. That, until Graceland, is Simon's solo peak.

The latter album's "You Can Call Me Al" was a victim of overkill on radio and MTV back then; I hope I don't still despise it.

 
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