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 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

Don't know this has been discussed but i thought it might need a new thread just for this news


During the briefing scene in the beginning of th film there is a hologram-image-film of peter weyland talking to the crew - the music played there is Goldsmith's ALIEN theme - i believe it's played like source music or something like that

But it's there - the theme heard in several cues in Goldsmith's Alien. Cues like the END CREDITS (on album) and THE LANDING sequence

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

the theme is Goldsmiths but arranged by Streitenfeld according to the CD and is called "A Friend From the Past"

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

the theme is Goldsmiths but arranged by Streitenfeld according to the CD and is called "A Friend From the Past"


Yes I know that it was created for the film - just forgot to write that

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I thought it was fun to hear it in the movie during an exposition scene, great homage. I do wonder with Prometheus being a prequel, if the score will evolve to sounding more like Jerry's as the new movies progress, but then the CGI would have to gradually transform to a guy in a suit... never mind big grin

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I do wonder with Prometheus being a prequel, if the score will evolve to sounding more like Jerry's as the new movies progress

From the reviews I'm reading, I wouldn't count too much on there being any "new movies."

It'll probably make its money back and then some, but PROMETHEUS is also quite likely going to go down generally as a dud.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   IWalkAmongYou   (Member)

"Prometheus" as dud?

I wish it wasn't so, but... it's what I'm expecting. Ridley scott's earliest films - the ones that were visually daring and inventive, but not much in the story department e.g. ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, LEGEND, THE DUELLISTS - are now classics, but it's because of their visual design (and some great music scores - well, I don't remember the music in the latter so we'll say 3 great music scores). Now that his films rely more on their stories, and their visuals could pass for any director's work (GLADIATOR, etc., even dating back to THELMA & LOUISE) they all seem pretty much like duds to me.

But I am looking forward to any sort of hommage to Goldsmith's work in PROMETHEUS, especially since his superior end titles was replaced by Scott. And I love ALIEN, so I still plan on lining up next weekend.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   John Webster   (Member)

The reviews from critics I've read so far have been largely positive, so I don't know why people would expect this to be a dud.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Reviews are mixed--and reviews won't determine whether there are sequels or not; box office will.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   John Webster   (Member)

Reviews are mixed--and reviews won't determine whether there are sequels or not; box office will.

I saw a couple mixed reviews, but most seem quite positive. Also, the film had a great opening in the UK yesterday. I think the box office will be just fine.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 10:31 PM   
 By:   Col. Flagg   (Member)

Now that his films rely more on their stories, and their visuals could pass for any director's work (GLADIATOR, etc., even dating back to THELMA & LOUISE) they all seem pretty much like duds to me.

I'd agree with you about GLADIATOR, but not THELMA & LOUISE. I find T&L to be just as visually arresting as any of his earlier films, and anything but a dud.

But we were talking about Goldsmith, weren't we?

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 12:00 AM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

It's a curious place for the Goldsmith theme to appear, because Weyland has no connection to the original ALIEN.

Guy Pearce as the old-age Weyland sports the worst make-up job in recent cinema, and just makes you wonder why on earth they didn't get someone like Christopher Plummer for the role.

And yes, the film is a dud, sadly. It's getting some positive reviews, sure, but so did INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL. Cinema is getting so bad that people can't even tell what's good anymore.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   John Webster   (Member)

Yes, they can. See, people have these things called "opinions". wink

...and Weyland does connect to the original 'Alien', even if the first film didn't yet have the "d" in the name: Weylan-Yutani.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

Yes, I've seen more positive than negative reviews at this point; and I've read that the 3-D is stunning but unobtrusive, and one reviewer described it as the best usage of the technology since Avatar (and if nothing else, that had great 3-D).

Whatever the case, I'm looking forward to seeing it next weekend. I've already pre-ordered my ticket for IMAX 3-D, which fortunately features reserved seating, and I was early enough to get a prime seat very close to both the horizontal and vertical centre of the theatre.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 12:52 AM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)


And yes, the film is a dud, sadly. It's getting some positive reviews, sure, but so did INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL. Cinema is getting so bad that people can't even tell what's good anymore.



Generally speaking, a film that opens strong with largely positive reviews doesn't rate a "dud."

I understand that is your personal feeling about the movie.... Hey, I dislike Cameron's "AlienS" and would love for it hold "dud" status...but the objective measures of its success (popular, critical and financial) suggest otherwise.

Bit too soon--and hubristic--to brand PROMETHEUS any sort of failure beyond your own opinion of its artistic merit until it opens much wider. So far, lookin' good:


Critics:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/prometheus_2012/


Box Office:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-prometheus-snow-white-uk-332235

http://www.boxoffice.com/latest-news/2012-05-31-prometheus-posts-strong-debut-in-france

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 1:39 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

i saw it yesterday - i like it very much - it has a tight pace and could have been longer but remember this is the cinema - people don't want to be there in very long time - i bet the "extended version" on BD will make the movie much better



E.g. the line "prometheus has landed" is not in the film - so you get the idea what i mean with tight pace.


This is better than so much other crap they show these days.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 3:31 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Interestingly, I didn't notice the ALIEN theme in that segment when I saw it a few days ago, but thanks for pointing it out. Now I'll pay extra attention the next time I see it.

Oh, and as I've said elsewhere, I think the film is pure art and classic Scott! Just brilliant.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

Oh, and as I've said elsewhere, I think the film is pure art and classic Scott! Just brilliant.


Looking forward to it. It may prove to be a positive for PROMETHEUS to have opened in a few markets before the US; allows a little time and perspective to creep in, help tone down those peskily stratospheric expectations some of us have been harboring.

I don't see all that many being deterred from seeing a film adjusted down in their estimation--according to some views--from an outright masterpiece to a merely very good or excellent film...or one with a few issues, yet still offering heaps of uncommon, Ridley Scott shepherded artistry and entertainment for their movie going dollar.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Reviews are mixed--and reviews won't determine whether there are sequels or not; box office will.

Not necessarily... Tim Burton's execrable 2001 "re-imagining" of my all-time favorite movie did fantastic box office, better really than the more recent and critically successful reboot, but I knew back then -- and you'll just have to believe me on this -- that there would be no sequel.

I haven't seen PROMETHEUS yet, so I'm not suggesting that it, too, is execrable, but from what I glean of the fan-boy world of "AintitCool" and such (which is the only audience this movie is targeted at) -- this is going to disappoint. And because a sequel will be so expensive for Fox to mount, even before I see it, I have a strong feeling there will be no sequel.

As for the general subject of Goldsmith here.... I'm just glad Jerry isn't alive to once again score a movie for Ridley Scott. Sometimes life does offer tender mercies.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


I haven't seen PROMETHEUS yet,


Yet you are already on the front line calling it a dud with no sequel possibilities? Mabey you should just stay home and watch the original. Really.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Reviews are mixed--and reviews won't determine whether there are sequels or not; box office will.


Most of the reviews I have read are positive, about 90% positive.

 
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