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 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Who is composing the score for Tarantino's western / spaghetti hybrid, does anyone know?

I don't see a composer listed at imdb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1853728/fullcredits#cast

I hope it isn't another foot / sadism movie. The stills look promising.

Love those Lone Pine locations. Glad he didn't shoot it in Spain.
What a pity he used a digital intermediate.


Richard

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

He showed some footage at Cannes, there's a report about it over at aintitcool. It sounds like it's both funny & vicious, it's probably something no one is expecting (a bit like Inglourous Basterds was). He has this huge library of Italian western music, & must have been listening to various tracks as he was writing it, so I'd expect a lot of them used, I hope so, anything to make this stuff more popular. I'm really looking forward to it.

Some pictures over at rotten tomatoes

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/django_unchained_2012/pictures/

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Tarantino's prior films did not use composers, this upcoming film will probably be no different.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

A new Tarantino film on December 25th...a very Merry Christmas this year! smile

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Tarantino's prior films did not use composers, this upcoming film will probably be no different.

He almost used Ennio Morricone for Inglourious Basterds, but he had to rush the post-production phase of the film to make Cannes, to the idea fell through. It'd be awesome if he could make it happen for Django Unchained.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Those are the same photos on imdb.

I get a kick out of seeing Jamie Foxx, the new Django, bellied up to the bar with Franco Nero, the original Django.

There's a lot of glove-wearing in this film, judging by the stills. Does glove-wearing make it more cool?



Richard

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I have to say I think Tarantino is one of the most over-rated directors currently working.

He steals shots from movies on a wholesale basis and calls it "homage". He slaps tunes onto scenes to make them "cool". And he writes cookie-cutter dialogue which superficially impresses but adds little or nothing to the narrative or characters' motivations.

Resevoir Dogs isn't a bad movie (albeit it is nowhere near as original as people believe) but stuff like Inglorious Basterds is terrible and Death Proof is just a total mess, unwatchable but for the presence of the very cute Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

There is no doubting QT knows his movies though so I fully expect Django Unchained to be his usual hodge-potch of characters, scenes and camera movies stolen from other, better movies. Sorry, not stolen.... paid homage to. Actually, nope, I was right the first time.


 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   franz_conrad   (Member)

I've not typically been a QT fan, but INGLORIOUS BASTARDS felt like one of the more thoughtful pieces of filmmaking I've seen from America in the last few years. Funny how different things work for different people.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I've not typically been a QT fan, but INGLORIOUS BASTARDS felt like one of the more thoughtful pieces of filmmaking I've seen from America in the last few years. Funny how different things work for different people.


True, I'm a moderate QT fan, I absolutely loved Jackie Brown, hated Kill Bill and was bored at times, exasperated at others with Basterds. Although his needle dropping didn't bother me in the film

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2012 - 11:41 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Mike Jenner
you are so right that I wished I'd written your post!!!
However, dont look for much support with that view in this day and age!
The world seems to have swallowed a Tarantino is cool pill.

 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2012 - 3:39 AM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

JACKIE BROWN was the only film by QT I could stand.

The worst is RESERVOIR DOGS. I can not fathom what people see in this dirty trick of a movie.


Richard

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2012 - 3:50 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

I think it would be a good idea to hire the composer of the original DJANGO, Luis Bacalov, who's still alive and (apparently) kicking.

 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2012 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I think it would be a good idea to hire the composer of the original DJANGO, Luis Bacalov, who's still alive and (apparently) kicking.

I wouldn't think Tarantino could do that even if he wanted to now, if he had a score he'd cut it up & add his stuff. I'm looking forward to playing spot that theme. I see not everyones a fan, that's fine, you don't have to watch the film.

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2012 - 4:29 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

Why not? If they're going to pay the royalties for the original Django theme to use in the remake, why not hire the composer himself to reflect on his old material? Bacalov is no stranger to "hip"/"weird" styles either.

 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2012 - 4:43 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

Why not? If they're going to pay the royalties for the original Django theme to use in the remake, why not hire the composer himself to reflect on his old material? Bacalov is no stranger to "hip"/"weird" styles either.

Yeah, I could see Tarantino hiring Bacalov with the best intentions, but I don't think he can help himself anymore. He just can't stop himself interfering with the music & adding other stuff, & I'm sure Bacalov would know that. Also the film's bound to run over two hours (Tarantino is getting a bit more...indulgent, he might stretch it to just under three!), it would be a lot of music to write. I think he should give someone younger a chance, who would know his music would be chopped & changed. If it was an old time composer, I'd vote for...Franco Micalizzi.

 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2012 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

I didn't realize Luis Bacalov was still alive and working.

It would be a tremendous advantage to Django Unchained if he were hired to score the film.

Richard

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2012 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Has anyone read the plot synopsis over at imdb?
The reason I ask is that the story sounds exactly like a 1970s exploitation western of considerable merit:




combined with its sequel:



Based on the synopsis, and the casting of Jamie Foxx, DJANGO UNCHAINED appears to be a direct remake.

Good thing for QT that Fred Williamson won't let those films out on DVD.


Richard

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2012 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Scott Atkins   (Member)

I have to say I think Tarantino is one of the most over-rated directors currently working.

He steals shots from movies on a wholesale basis and calls it "homage". He slaps tunes onto scenes to make them "cool". And he writes cookie-cutter dialogue which superficially impresses but adds little or nothing to the narrative or characters' motivations.

Resevoir Dogs isn't a bad movie (albeit it is nowhere near as original as people believe) but stuff like Inglorious Basterds is terrible and Death Proof is just a total mess, unwatchable but for the presence of the very cute Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

There is no doubting QT knows his movies though so I fully expect Django Unchained to be his usual hodge-potch of characters, scenes and camera movies stolen from other, better movies. Sorry, not stolen.... paid homage to. Actually, nope, I was right the first time.


One could make the same claim about James Cameron. The Terminator-Westworld/Halloween rip off.
The Abyss-Close Encounters rip off. True Lies-James Bond Rip off. Avatar-Big time Dances with Wolves rip off. Yet Cameron brings a unique vision to these stories. It's the same with Tarantino. And don't get me started on Cameron's dialogue! smile QT blows him away in that regard.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 12:14 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I have to say I think Tarantino is one of the most over-rated directors currently working.

He steals shots from movies on a wholesale basis and calls it "homage". He slaps tunes onto scenes to make them "cool". And he writes cookie-cutter dialogue which superficially impresses but adds little or nothing to the narrative or characters' motivations.

Resevoir Dogs isn't a bad movie (albeit it is nowhere near as original as people believe) but stuff like Inglorious Basterds is terrible and Death Proof is just a total mess, unwatchable but for the presence of the very cute Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

There is no doubting QT knows his movies though so I fully expect Django Unchained to be his usual hodge-potch of characters, scenes and camera movies stolen from other, better movies. Sorry, not stolen.... paid homage to. Actually, nope, I was right the first time.


One could make the same claim about James Cameron. The Terminator-Westworld/Halloween rip off.
The Abyss-Close Encounters rip off. True Lies-James Bond Rip off. Avatar-Big time Dances with Wolves rip off. Yet Cameron brings a unique vision to these stories. It's the same with Tarantino. And don't get me started on Cameron's dialogue! smile QT blows him away in that regard.


I wasn't talking about the originality of stories (what is the old adage, there are only seven original stories?) but since you made the point your comparrisons are pretty tenuous. Terminator is a Westworld/ Halloween rip off? Oh yes, I remember the bit in the first Terminator where Arnie breaks out of a nut house, ends up at a holiday resort and he puts on a mask to go chasing after his sister Sarah Conner-Myers, only to be finally destroyed by Reece, as played by Donald Pleasance.

The Abyss / CE3K - that must have been the little-seen Special Aquatic edition of Spielberg's movie you are referring to, where Roy Neary's house is taken over by Navy Seals. But because Roy has taken up the floor boards to make his replica Devil's Tower, the house sinks beneath the surface of the Earth and is stuck there with the air running out. Fortunately the same ETs that have been sending messages about going to Wyoming have a nifty line in submarines so they come to rescue Roy, unaware that Francoise Truffaut has a nuclear bomb. Sorry, but apart from both movies having a common denominator of benign aliens, they are both very different films indeed.

True Lies, FYI, wasn't an original Cameron story but actually a remake of a French film called La Totale. But that aside I don't see it as a Bond ripoff any more than any other modern action movie is (the entire genre owes so much to 007 movies). Oh wait, Arnie wears a tux.... and so does Bond! Gee whiz, you got me!

I conceed the point about Dances With Wolves, although Costner's film itself is hardly original (see films like Little Big Man, Run of the Arrow etc).

Rant over, the point I was trying to make is that QT simply copies shots from movies he loves, wheras Cameron is an innovator and actually designs shots from scratch without constantly referencing other movies. Sure, Spiellberg will borrow shots from his favorite movies but not in the wholesale fashion that Tarantino does.

As regards dialogue, fair point that that isn't Cameron strength by any means, but at keast he doesn't constantly strive for "cool" over substance in his writing the way Tarantino does.

As with everything it comes doen to personal taste by I stand by my kwn view that QT is drasticallyiver-rated.

One last thing - at least Cameron has never made an unwatchable movie. QT's Death Proof is a hateful, lupen piece of garbage - hell, Even Pirana 2 is better than that!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 3:42 AM   
 By:   El Goodo   (Member)

If all he does is copy shots from other movies, why aren't there a hundred little Quentins out there doing the same thing with just as much success and, er, "overratedness"? I mean, if it's that simple...








 
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