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 Posted:   May 6, 2012 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

There are still quite a few scores I would dearly love to have:

PORK CHOP HILL (1959)
THE SAVAGE EYE (1960)
THE OUTSIDER (1961)
COUNTDOWN (1968)
RACE WITH THE DEVIL (1975) I understand this score is MIA at Fox
THE CAR
MAKING LOVE
SYLVIA
HEART OF THE STAG

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2012 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Is that all?

There's loads more!

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2012 - 9:09 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Unreleased Leonard Rosenman from 1955 through 1962 (pre-Italy)

East Of Eden
Rebel Without A Cause
Young Stranger
Bombers B-52
Lafayette Escadrille
Pork Chop Hill
Law Of The Plainsman (TV series)
Rise And Fall Of Legs Diamond
Bramble Bush
Savage Eye
Crowded Sky
Plunderers, The
Outsider, The
Hell Is For Heroes - released February 2013 on Intrada
Convicts Four
Chapman Report (original Warner Bros. mono sound recordings exist)

Before departing for Italy mid-1962, Leonard Rosenman (it's my understanding) orchestrated his own scores.

After having met Ralph Ferraro in Italy, most of Rosenman's scores from about 1968 onwards were orchestrated by Ferraro.

Rosenman's underscore comes after 1:55 minutes into this preview clip:

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2012 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

I'd buy all of them.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2012 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   Redokt64   (Member)

Two are at the top of my list...

THE CAR

and

RACE WITH THE DEVIL

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2012 - 9:46 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

more unreleased Rosenman (after FANTASTIC VOYAGE & DR. LEAKY)

Covenant With Death, A
Garrison's Gorillas (TV series)
Virginian, The (TV series)
Stranger On The Run (TV movie)
Alexander The Great - released August 2012 on FMS
Countdown
Shadow Over Elveron (TV movie)
500 Million Years Beneath The Sea (the other National Geographic episode)
Any Second Now (most of the following are TV titles...)
Marcus Welby, M.D.
This Savage Land
Primus
Vanished
Banyon
In Broad Daylight
Todd Killings
Octopus, Octopus
Bravos, The
Cat Creature
Nakia
Judge Dee And The Monastary Murders
First 36 Hours Of Dr. Durant
Sky Heist
Race With The Devil
Birch Interval
Lanigan's Rabbi
Kingston: Confidential
The Last Hard Men (rejected score) - released December 2012 on Intrada
Dental Dynamiter
Gibbsville
Sybil - released August 2012 on FMS
Possessed
Car, The
Rafferty
Dead Man's Truth
Mary White
Other Side Of Hell
Enemy Of The People
Friendly Fire
Promises In The Dark
Nero Wolfe
City In Fear
Jazz Singer
Murder In Texas
Falcon Crest (unaired)
Making Love
Wall, The
Miss Lonelyhearts
Celebrity
Return Of Marcus Welby, M.D.
Heart Of The Stag
Heartsounds
First Steps
Sylvia
Portraits Of Canada (doc)
Promised A Miracle
Body Wars - released August 2012 on FMS
Where Pigeons Go To Die - released August 2012 on FMS
Aftermath: A Test Of Love
Ambition
Circles In A Forest
Color Of Evening
Face On The Milk Carton
West Side Waltz (unused)
Mrs. Munck
Levitation (1997)

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2012 - 10:08 PM   
 By:   The Cat   (Member)

And of course the unused score for The Long Hard Men (1976) (perhaps doesn't survive) and the unused, unreleased, mostly unrecorded The West Side Waltz (1995). smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2012 - 11:23 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

more unreleased Rosenman (after FANTASTIC VOYAGE & DR. LEAKY)

Covenant With Death, A
Garrison's Gorillas (TV series)
Virginian, The (TV series)
Stranger On The Run (TV movie)
Alexander The Great (busted TV pilot with William Shatner)
Countdown
Shadow Over Elveron (TV movie)
500 Million Years Beneath The Sea (the other National Geographic episode)
Any Second Now (most of the following are TV titles...)
Marcus Welby, M.D.
This Savage Land
Primus
Vanished
Banyon
In Broad Daylight
Todd Killings
Octopus, Octopus
Bravos, The
Cat Creature
Nakia
Judge Dee And The Monastary Murders
First 36 Hours Of Dr. Durant
Sky Heist
Race With The Devil
Birch Interval
Lanigan's Rabbi
Kingston: Confidential
Dental Dynamiter
Gibbsville
Sybil
Possessed
Car, The
Rafferty
Dead Man's Truth
Mary White
Other Side Of Hell
Enemy Of The People
Friendly Fire
Promises In The Dark
Nero Wolfe
City In Fear
Jazz Singer
Murder In Texas
Falcon Crest (unaired)
Making Love
Wall, The
Miss Lonelyhearts
Celebrity
Return Of Marcus Welby, M.D.
Heart Of The Stag
Heartsounds
First Steps
Sylvia
Promised A Miracle
Where Pigeons Go To Die
Aftermath: A Test Of Love
Ambition
Circles In A Forest
Color Of Evening
Face On The Milk Carton
Mrs. Munck
Levitation

What is "Octopus, Octopus"? You also left out "Portraits oF Canada", for which the documentary we shown at Canada's Expo '86, and was seen at Walt Disney World in Florida.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2012 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   TheFamousEccles   (Member)

Of course, I'd love to see any unreleased Rosenman put into the "released" category - but, of his later output, it'd be great to see his "Heart of the Stag" and "Circles in a Forest" put into release - as well as his two Emmy winners, the highly inventive "Sybil," and "Friendly Fire." Finally, I certainly wouldn't begrudge any label if they wanted to reissue or expand his "9/30/55" score, wherein he revisits his immortal "East of Eden" and "Rebel Without a Cause" material. Honestly, though, I'd be delighted to see anything.

A minor addition to something ToneRow mentioned in his earlier post - while Leonard did do a good deal of his own orchestration in those earlier years, Maurice DePackh's name (he who also orchestrated for Alex North, among others) appears on a few "Rebel" cues, and Johnny Mandel once told me that he orchestrated "The Chapman Report."

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2012 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

A minor addition to something ToneRow mentioned in his earlier post - while Leonard did do a good deal of his own orchestration in those earlier years, Maurice DePackh's name (he who also orchestrated for Alex North, among others) appears on a few "Rebel" cues, and Johnny Mandel once told me that he orchestrated "The Chapman Report."

Maurice de Packh is also credited with orchestrations for the score of LAFAYETTE ESCADRILLE.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2012 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

What is "Octopus, Octopus"? You also left out "Portraits oF Canada", for which the documentary we shown at Canada's Expo '86, and was seen at Walt Disney World in Florida.

Feel free to add any title that I may not be aware of, like that documentary on Canada.

"Octopus, Octopus" is a 1971 segment of the UNDERSEA WORLD OF JACQUES COUSTEAU;
according to IMDB, it was broadcast December 21, 1971.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2012 - 5:55 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

A minor addition to something ToneRow mentioned in his earlier post - while Leonard did do a good deal of his own orchestration in those earlier years, Maurice DePackh's name (he who also orchestrated for Alex North, among others) appears on a few "Rebel" cues, and Johnny Mandel once told me that he orchestrated "The Chapman Report."

Thanks for your input, Eccles.

Perhaps Johnny Mandel did the orchestrations for the film's sound recordings, because (as I understand it) when Rosenman re-recorded CHAPMAN REPORT in Italy for Warner Bros' LP album, the arrangments were purportedly done by Ralph Ferraro ... isn't this so?

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2012 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Maurice de Packh is also credited with orchestrations for the score of LAFAYETTE ESCADRILLE.

That's interesting.

I recall Rosenman claiming that he considered LAFAYETTE ESCADRILLE as the worst movie he ever scored! smile

(maybe de Packh did the orchestrations because Rosenman didn't care for the film?)

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2012 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   TheFamousEccles   (Member)

Insofar as what I remember Ralph telling me, he only arranged the version of the "East of Eden" theme for "The Chapman Report" LP - which was the first thing he orchestrated for Leonard. Leonard's then wife, Kay Scott, liked the chart very much. From that (and the fact that Ralph was one of the few English speakers in the orchestra), a lengthy composer/orchestrator relationship was borne. I do believe, however, that Ferraro performed on "The Chapman Report" LP as a drummer/percussionist.

EDIT: Also, regarding "The Savage Eye," much (if not all) of that score is taken from Leonard's "Chamber Music I" (aka "Chamber Symphony") - which is definitely a piece in need of recording. I don't honestly recall there being any differences between the two (except for the in-out points of each cue).

EDIT TWO: ToneRow, you should add Rosenman's score to the EPCOT attraction "Body Wars" to your list - I don't remember the exact figure, but I think he wrote somewhere around ten minutes of material for it. I'm not sure if it could be released or paired with anything (because of licensing issues and so forth), but it'd be neat to have that in circulation.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2012 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I shall continue to pound the bleachers, demanding that someone else besides me do all the work to release MURDER IN TEXAS (music at 2:05 below)



and CROSS CREEK's first cousin, MAKING LOVE

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

*bump*

additions have been amended ...

...any further unreleased music by Leonard Rosenman that anybody wishes to add?

It's interesting to note that the Rosenman CD discography since 1998 up to the present has been mainly from either FSM or Intrada.

With exception of Rosenman's "And When The Sky Was Opened" music from THE TWILIGHT ZONE, and ROBOCOP2, there hasn't been any other Rosenman scores on Varese Sarabande (... I think ...).

This seems to imply that Robert Townson is not an adovate of Rosenman's soundtracks, and, with FSM ceasing production lines, the only hope of Rosenman soundtracks in the future rests with Intrada ... unless a label such as Quartet has Rosenman in their pipeline ...

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   TheFamousEccles   (Member)

Hi ToneRow,

Yes, you're quite right in that the Varese issuances of Rosenman are limited to the two you've mentioned - it'd be nice to get an expanded "RoboCop 2." While it's a fun album as it stands, it leaves out a lot of the more diverse material - perhaps it could get tossed on a 2-CD set with an expanded "RoboCop 3," and two birds would get killed with one jewel case.

One quick thing you may want to fix, the name of the rejected western score by Leonard was "The Last Hard Men."

In addition to the "Body Wars" ride itself, I believe Leonard also wrote music for the surrounding pre-show and such as well - not that that makes any impact on the exemplary list you've assembled - just wanted to point out that there's even more music in them thar hills.

Here's hoping Intrada (or any other label, really) sends a few more Rosenman albums our way this year.

EDIT: I've seen manuscripts for a score by Leonard called "Mind Game," that I've been trying to track down the provenance of. It's a later period Rosenman score (I'd put it somewhere between mid/late1980s-mid 1990s). I haven't found much corresponding information relating to it (looking through movies with that title, a variant on that title, or had it as a working title), and it didn't even look like the parts were taken out of their shrink-wrap - so, naturally, it's a score I'm pretty curious about.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 7:32 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Thanks, I made the spelling fix.

I now recall even seeing that movie on TV long time ago - "The Last Hard Men" recycled a lot of 100 RIFLES by Jerry Goldsmith, didn't it?

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 7:34 PM   
 By:   TheFamousEccles   (Member)

Yes - the finished movie just recycled a bunch of cues from "100 Rifles," and "Stagecoach," too - I think. There may have been another Goldsmith western score re-appropriated for it, too. Leonard himself was not terribly fond of the movie. When discussing it in an interview he did a good while ago, he called it - if I remember right - "reprehensible," or something equally condemnatory.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

I've seen manuscripts for a score by Leonard called "Mind Game," ... and it didn't even look like the parts were taken out of their shrink-wrap - so, naturally, it's a score I'm pretty curious about.

I'm curious, Eccles, how many of Rosenman's manuscripts exist complete? (that is, if you are at liberty to disclose & I'm not out of line by asking)

 
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