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 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 4:46 AM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

I`ve just watched the rather forgettable film again and was suprised that this score isn`t more popular.
What a grand and melodic score from - IMO - Newman`s best period (late 80s/early 90s) Unfortunately the Varese
CD only includes half of the score and leaves off several memorable cues, for example the cue where Michael Caine explains the meaning of destiny to Belushi. Mr. Destiny definetely would make a great expanded release.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Afraid I'll have to disagree with this.

I bought the MR. DESTINY soundtrack on cassette tape when it came out.

David Newman's early scores from the late 1980s are indeed likeable, but MR. DESTINY isn't one of them. I listened to it for a few years, but ultimately gave up on it.

Eventually, I threw my tape of MR. DESTINY into the trash and have no intentions of ever getting a CD of it (expanded or not).

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)

I listened to it for a few years, but ultimately gave up on it.

Is it because of the scarce synth. moments or because of a more general reason? I know sometimes it's hard to find out why a score doesn't get any response. In the "5 Best Tiomkin Albums" thread i expressed a similar feeling about THE WAR WAGON. Maybe MR DESTINY isn't as fine as HORSE WHISPERER but i like its mood very much.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

I listened to it for a few years, but ultimately gave up on it.

Is it because of the scarce synth. moments or because of a more general reason? I know sometimes it's hard to find out why a score doesn't get any response. In the "5 Best Tiomkin Albums" thread i expressed a similar feeling about THE WAR WAGON. Maybe MR DESTINY isn't as fine as HORSE WHISPERER but i like its mood very much.


Hey there, Anabel - you pop in a MR. DESTINY thread but didn't make any entry on my Nouvelle Vague thread?

Anyway, my dislike of MR. DESTINY has nothing to do with synthesizers.
I like very much David Newman's THE KINDRED and CRITTERS.
Even MY DEMON LOVER, which I like to a lesser degree, is in my collection.

However, MR. DESTINY's score sounds to me like a single long constant movement without much variety, rather like an opening allegro that does not segue into a scherzo and/or adagio.

Those are my thoughts for whatever they are worth...

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)

Hey there, Anabel - you pop in a MR. DESTINY thread but didn't make any entry on my Nouvelle Vague thread?

Actually your "popping" in a MR. DESTINY thread intrigued me in a first place. And i'll take a plunge into your new wave thread but i'm not sure to be able to pop up with accurate thoughts about the reasons why some scores don't get a -- proper -- release.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I'm just gonna copy in what I already said in the other Mr Destiny thread, many moons ago (my feelings are still the same and yeah, put me down for an expanded edition) smile


Posted: Mar 24, 2007 - 12:53 AM
By: Kev McGann (Member)

Oblicno, BUY IT NOW!!!
It's one of David Newman's best scores, with big 'The Natural' style moments and lovely, tender, romantic stuff and some tense cues!
I've loved it for years!
The film is a 'It's A Wonderful Life' rip, but easily watchable, nonetheless.



 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

Afraid I'll have to disagree with this.

I bought the MR. DESTINY soundtrack on cassette tape when it came out.

David Newman's early scores from the late 1980s are indeed likeable, but MR. DESTINY isn't one of them. I listened to it for a few years, but ultimately gave up on it.

Eventually, I threw my tape of MR. DESTINY into the trash and have no intentions of ever getting a CD of it (expanded or not).



Well, tastes are different. I think the theme is magnificent and memorable. There are very strong and emotional passages in the score and the action stuff is very powerful. And I also like the combination of synth and orchestra.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

Afraid I'll have to disagree with this.

I bought the MR. DESTINY soundtrack on cassette tape when it came out.

David Newman's early scores from the late 1980s are indeed likeable, but MR. DESTINY isn't one of them. I listened to it for a few years, but ultimately gave up on it.

Eventually, I threw my tape of MR. DESTINY into the trash and have no intentions of ever getting a CD of it (expanded or not).



Well, tastes are different. I think the theme is magnificent and memorable. There are very strong and emotional passages in the score and the action stuff is very powerful. And I also like the combination of synth and orchestra.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

Afraid I'll have to disagree with this.

I bought the MR. DESTINY soundtrack on cassette tape when it came out.

David Newman's early scores from the late 1980s are indeed likeable, but MR. DESTINY isn't one of them. I listened to it for a few years, but ultimately gave up on it.

Eventually, I threw my tape of MR. DESTINY into the trash and have no intentions of ever getting a CD of it (expanded or not).



Well, tastes are different. I think the theme is magnificent and memorable. There are very strong and emotional passages in the score and the action stuff is very powerful. And I also like the combination of synth and orchestra.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

Afraid I'll have to disagree with this.

I bought the MR. DESTINY soundtrack on cassette tape when it came out.

David Newman's early scores from the late 1980s are indeed likeable, but MR. DESTINY isn't one of them. I listened to it for a few years, but ultimately gave up on it.

Eventually, I threw my tape of MR. DESTINY into the trash and have no intentions of ever getting a CD of it (expanded or not).



Well, tastes are different. I think the theme is magnificent and memorable. There are very strong and emotional passages in the score and the action stuff is very powerful. And I also like the combination of synth and orchestra.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

Sorry for my four posts. Don`t know what happened. I`ve actually posted my former message only once. Strange.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)



However, MR. DESTINY's score sounds to me like a single long constant movement without much variety, rather like an opening allegro that does not segue into a scherzo and/or adagio.

Those are my thoughts for whatever they are worth...


There is actually quite a lot of variety in the score (and even on the way too short CD). You have this grand majestic cue "Mr. Destiny" which actually is the unused end credits. Then there are the moody and atmospheric "Main Titles" which actually differ from the main titles in the film. Then you have the smokey jazz piece "Cindy Joe`s Present". Then there is a very touching pastoral passage "Larry looks for Ellen". And finally you have terrific furious action cues like "Larry punches out Niles".

How much more variety do you need?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Johnjerry   (Member)

Mr.Destiny is definitely one of the greatest (if not the greatest!) scores by David Newman: it's flourishing with great themes and big action moments and I'd buy an expanded cd in a second!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 5:48 PM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

Thank you for bringing this one back from the old days. At that time I would buy the Varèse compilations every year and I discovered this score thanks to its famous 5 minutes end titles. I've never seen the movie but if there is so much music missing a complete edition would be nice !

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

Count me in for an expanded MR DESTINY !

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2013 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

And it definetely could need a remastering. Mr. Destiny remastered and expanded would be most welcome. Although there are probably not more than 15 minutes missing.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2013 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

This score has always been one of my favorites. A remastered and expanded edition would be very welcome!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2013 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Thank you for bringing this one back from the old days. At that time I would buy the Varèse compilations every year and I discovered this score thanks to its famous 5 minutes end titles. I've never seen the movie but if there is so much music missing a complete edition would be nice !

Unfortunately the end titles weren't used in the movie (they plumped for The Platters' "Only You" for some reason).

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2013 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Very nice score from DAVID Newman , I don't know if Dave is underrated or not, but he is a fine composer.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 6:07 AM   
 By:   dennis   (Member)

I have this on CD and I wouldn't mind to get an expanded/complete new release
Although I would prefer a CD of any other David Newman's unreleased scores (Scooby-Doo, Flintstones?)

 
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