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This is a comments thread about Blog Post: Ben-Hur Lives! by Lukas Kendall
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Thumbs up, Lukas. This is a win-win: the label gets a much needed cash infusion and (hopefully) everyone that wants it will now have a chance to pick one up. The only ones getting screwed are those trying to make a profit off the set and I frankly have no time for them anyways.

Keep up the good work,

Chris.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   theMaestraX   (Member)

Thank you Lukas for issuing more of this re-release of a GREAT masterwork!
I have finally come round to purchasing this item today from a soundtrack
store here in the UK - Yes this is NOT a typo error a store here in the UK!!
Panic buying or what..........!!!

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

The race goes on!

Hail, Lukas!

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

I should add that Lukas is continuing a historical tradition, since the music from BEN-HUR has been in print since 1959 in one form or another.

Rozsa would have been 105 this year. His score has been in print for pretty well half that time...

52.5 years!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

It's very cool to see that the labels such as Intrada and now FSM are using actual supply and demand of their products to determine quantities instead of predetermined guesstimating.

Hopefully Ben-Hur continues to sell close to the rate that it's been going.

If someone regrets buying this title because they were scared that it was going to sell out sooner than it now is going to, I just don't understand that mindset.

If someone regrets buying it because it no longer has the stated limited number, I don't understand that either. it's just a number. Why do you need to feel special by owning some title that had a limited run?

I can't think of one logical reason that someone who is a big enough fan of this music to spend $60 on five discs of Ben-Hur would ever be against repressing it so that more people can enjoy the music.

There simply isn't a logical reason for it. Well done, FSM.

We've come a long way from that Inchon fiasco a few years back where message board users were basically theatening Intrada to never buy their products again. I wonder where htose people are now. Did they really not buy Trek's IV and VI? Ha.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

I'm not sure, but didn't the first CD appear only after the Savina LP had finally gone out of print? I've always thought that the true champions for longevity (among dramatic scores) were THE ROBE and THE EGYPTIAN. They both sold throughout the entire LP era and then received early CD versions. By contrast, Rozsa's QUO VADIS (a film just as prominent as THE ROBE) was out of print by around 1960, or perhaps earlier. Of course, this may have to do with nothing more than the inventory practices of Decca vs. MGM.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

Right on, Lukas! Congratulations on the first run selling so well.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Lukas: "I want to explain very clearly the reason (after the jump)."



This is an actual frame from the film. Note the camera at right.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

An excellent decision.


Really - this sold out fast and another pressing will give folks - hopefully me - a chance to save up and snag a copy.

This is a score everyone should have access to and be able to enjoy. There's no reason on earth anyone should have a problem with this.


About 30 minutes ago I tripped and slipped diet orange soda all over the sofa cushions. So, while the lady of the house is still pissed, I'm feeling better already big grin

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

I thought I got in under the wire with my Intrada order. I just sent them an email asking them to cancel it. I'll buy it later and put the money toward other bills for now. How about manufacturing more of the Miklos Rozsa Treasury? Ben-Hur is described as being a "capstone" to that collection. Kind of implies that the limited edition number for Ben-Hur and the Treasury should be the same, no?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

I'm pretty shocked 2000 went that quick.

Oh well, I guess I can't really complain that the short scare forced me to pony up a few bucks extra for shipping...I blame other labels for not releasing anything I need 'right away' big grin

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Awesome! I may actually be able to get this in a weekish. Lukas, you get the gold star yet again. I love how you and Intrada are making changes to the whole limited edition thing (hopefully LaLa Land will be able, and willing, to follow suit). Your honesty is also appreciated: of course you need the money! There's nothing wrong with it and it gives many of us a chance to get the album. Win-win as they say.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

I thought I got in under the wire with my Intrada order. I just sent them an email asking them to cancel it. I'll buy it later and put the money toward other bills for now. How about manufacturing more of the Miklos Rozsa Treasury? Ben-Hur is described as being a "capstone" to that collection. Kind of implies that the limited edition number for Ben-Hur and the Treasury should be the same, no?

I have already explained at great length why we are unable to repress the Treasury right now. I am sorry you are disappointed.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

If someone regrets buying this title because they were scared that it was going to sell out sooner than it now is going to, I just don't understand that mindset.

If someone regrets buying it because it no longer has the stated limited number, I don't understand that either. it's just a number. Why do you need to feel special by owning some title that had a limited run?

I can't think of one logical reason that someone who is a big enough fan of this music to spend $60 on five discs of Ben-Hur would ever be against repressing it so that more people can enjoy the music.

There simply isn't a logical reason for it. Well done, FSM.


I agree that it's essential such a fabulous score and release remains in print. It would be very sad if it disappeared after such a short time. And such a superbly-presented item deserves sales success.
However, LK was definitive in his recent post when he told people here: "To answer a question: no, we will not be repressing this after the 2000 copies sell out". I would say that IS a logical reason for some disgruntlement.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

The race goes on!

Hail, Lukas!




Is there a hi-res blowup of this image somewhere?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

However, LK was definitive in his recent post when he told people here: "To answer a question: no, we will not be repressing this after the 2000 copies sell out". I would say that IS a logical reason for some disgruntlement.

I fail to see how that would be a logical reason rather than an emotional reason, so please help me to understand? I'm well aware of what was said.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

If someone regrets buying this title because they were scared that it was going to sell out sooner than it now is going to, I just don't understand that mindset.

What exactly you don't understand about it?

Buying something that has clearly set such a low number of copies (which was assured won't be increased) and is this attractive despite being hardly able to afford it (and postponing buying it as long as possible) and then getting a copy shortly before it's announced there will be more copies pressed and therefore you've just spend the money on something you wanted but couldn't afford and didn't need at this moment, which may in fact cause you missing on something else that won't get repressed?

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Anthony Marose   (Member)

Yes! Thank you, Lukas. Fantastic decision. If people want it, give it to them. Everyone wins.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2012 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

However, LK was definitive in his recent post when he told people here: "To answer a question: no, we will not be repressing this after the 2000 copies sell out". I would say that IS a logical reason for some disgruntlement.

I fail to see how that would be a logical reason rather than an emotional reason, so please help me to understand? I'm well aware of what was said.


I'm not getting drawn further into it because I'm only a guest here and the host can do and say what he likes.
And he has. End of.

 
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