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	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 6:45 AM
	By:	afn (Member)

Listening to this great and moving John Williams score from 1989, I say this needs remastering and expansion, don't you think?

1. I want a full Williams CD, I don't need any songs.

2. Is it just me or is there a very high sinus tone audible in the background? This has bugged me since I bought the CD 20 years ago.

3. The sound quality is substandard, IMHO, when compared for example to the crisp and razor-sharp sounding 1941 (from 1979!).

Thoughts?


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 6:48 AM
	By:	Joe Brausam (Member)

Aside from Hook, this is my most wanted Williams expansion. This score has a great deal of emotional resonance for me and I truly love it. I hope it's in the works!


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 8:29 AM
	By:	Thor (Member)

Of course, I have no need for an expansion, but to be honest, I don't really need a remastering either. I think it sounds fine. No hiss or anything. Only some sharpness in the dissonant outbursts for the Vietnam sequence, but I think that's supposed to be part of the music.


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 8:40 AM
	By:	David Sones (Allardyce) (Member)

Any CD from the early '90s could use remastering (generally speaking). As for expansion in this case, seems like the majority of score is already on the album, but I could be mistaken. Even so, it's one of Williams' finest and I would support a re-issue or expansion of any kind.


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 9:00 AM
	By:	Mike Esssss (Member)


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 9:10 AM
	By:	Adam S (Member)

As an album experience, there would be a lot of repetition with a complete release. The soundtrack, though not long, was fairly representative and probably a good approach for a soundtrack being pitched to a more general audience. However, there are a lot of really good variations on the dominant themes and I love this score so much that I would jump at a chance to have an expansion.

I was also interested to read in an interview after the movie that JW used this score as an example of how music can get taken out and he said something to the effect this experience can be soul crushing. I was surprised by his candor but it is not hard to see his frustration. A lot of effort and creativity gets poured into something and then, just like that, it may never see the light of day, probably to the detriment to the film judging by a couple of the scenes that jumped out at me as being intended to have music. There was the montage of Ron Kovic as a young athlete and the scene of Kovic praying to name a couple that I'd love to know how JW scored. But even from what we know there are some great unreleased cues like the homecoming/family reunion and the beautifully romantic and nostalgic version of the main theme in an early scene as Stone pans the camera around to show 1950s America. Definitely one of my favorite scores.

- Adam


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 9:14 AM
	By:	Peter Greenhill (Member)

The original presentation is, for me, just perfect. Sound seems fine as well. One of Williams best scores.


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 9:24 AM
	By:	Thor (Member)

This is one case where the truncated score selection on a song-score album is well-considered and beautifully presented. Not surprising given it's Williams.

I'm not familiar enough with the complete score to know what may be missing so I can't say I wouldn't weclome an expansion, but what's there on the album certainly doesn't feel lacking.

I had a complete boot once, and it was absolutely disastrous as a listening experience. It annoyed me so much that I physically broke it in two and threw it away. Almost ruined the whole experience of the score.


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 9:43 AM
	By:	Peter Greenhill (Member)

I had that b**t as well. No new thematic material and a lot of repetition. Wrecks the score as a listening experience.


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 9:58 AM
	By:	Anthony Marose (Member)

I really want this, too. It's a hauntingly tragic score - just beautiful.


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 11:27 AM
	By:	judy the hutt (Member)

I love the original (both LP and CD) and glad that John Williams music is not intermixed with the songs. The Boston Pops did a very good version of Born on the 4th of July and they play this version on my classical radio station KUAT-FM.


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 11:51 AM
	By:	Sarge (Member)

I had a complete boot once, and it was absolutely disastrous as a listening experience. It annoyed me so much that I physically broke it in two and threw it away. Almost ruined the whole experience of the score.

While I didn't break mine, I have to agree with Thor on this (astonishing, I know!). The complete score is very repetitive.

There are a few nice extra tracks and alternate cues, but Johnny's original album presentation is just about perfect.


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 11:59 AM
	By:	The REAL BJBien (Member)


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 2:26 PM
	By:	agentMaestraX (Member)

YES PLEASE! Sort it out!


	Posted:	Jan 27, 2012 - 6:14 PM
	By:	pete (Member)

If votes count, I vote for more.
There's no such things as too much Williams^^


	Posted:	Jul 2, 2012 - 7:11 PM
	By:	RM Eastman (Member)

Just watched "Born on the 4th of July" on Blu-Ray, and the film still has an enormous emotional impact. John Williams score is breathtakingly beautiful, even though Willam's main theme is very close to one of Puccini's operas.(Forget the title). The strength of William's music
adds a further dimension and provokes an unbelieable emtional wallop.

Sure wish one of our fine labels woulds release the full score with sparkling sound.


	Posted:	Jul 2, 2012 - 9:17 PM
	By:	Sketchkid (Member)

One of my favorite JW's. Blu-ray's ordered but unfortunately hasn't shipped yet. I do have one of the "complete" rips (w/alternates, etc) but I'd pay for an official release on day one if it ever happens.


	Posted:	Jul 2, 2012 - 9:22 PM
	By:	Joe Brausam (Member)

This is my favorite Williams score, and a contender for my favorite of all time. I'm not saying its the best score ever, in fact I'd never even suggest such a thing, but it connects with me in a very personal way.


	Posted:	Jul 2, 2012 - 10:35 PM
	By:	Amer Zahid (Member)

Its been ages since I last saw the film way back in the early 90's. Williams first 'serious' film score post Spielberg/ Lucas collaboration. At that point it was my least favorite score only because it was so off his usual whimsical alley he tread upon or what I was familiar with. But its indeed a very powerful and moving score and the trumpet solos by Ops veteran Tim Morrison really stand out. I will check out the blu ray- it would be nice to discover the full score some day as an expanded cd.


	Posted:	Jul 2, 2012 - 10:37 PM
	By:	drivingmissdaisy (Member)

I would love a remastered original album presentation and then afterwards some of the bonus materials and extra cues that would round out an expansion.

I agree that this is one score presentation they got right the first time and considering how repetitive it is, more of the same isn't warranted.

I'm kind of leaning toward your argument my friend. I think the CD is a great representation of the score as well as the songs, honestly.

I need to get this on blu-ray. I looked at our local store and didn't see it.

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