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 Posted:   Jan 4, 2012 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Whats ironic is I am at my computer all day. Yet the WD failed "over night" and the Seagate failed while I was away from the computer for a few hours. roll eyes


That qualifies as pretty damn spooky.

Coincidentally, last fall I bought a WD unit for my kid and had 2 days of Hell trying to get it running. Plug and play, my butt. When I went back they refunded my money so placidly that I suspect the whole pallet were lemons... and that they KNEW it.

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2012 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

My WD was making really bad clicking noises and was super hot. The Seagate was making more noise than normal and was also super hot...

Clicking hard-drives are bad news. I had that happen to me, and it is the death rattle of a drive spinning and trying to find the information, but the disc is physically worn out. If you hear that, migrate data immediately to another drive.

Another tip I learned that may be obvious: don't leave your external drives plugged in all the time. Turn them on when you need them and, after you have checked that the data migration was successful, carefully eject the external drive from your desktop, power down and disconnect the power source. If the transformer light is on, it's always going to get warm, and no hard drive is immortal.

I had three Lacie drives appear to die over a couple of years, but when I got new power cables for each they powered up with all the data intact. Since then, I've treated them very carefully, and have nine external drives in rotation -- Lacie, Western Digital, iOmega, a couple of enclosures -- including a small Lacie Rugged 500GB portable, and one dedicated to Time Machine backups.

You can never have too much disc space!

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2012 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)


Another tip I learned that may be obvious: don't leave your external drives plugged in all the time. Turn them on when you need them and, after you have checked that the data migration was successful, carefully eject the external drive from your desktop, power down and disconnect the power source.



You means pull the plug from the socket? I can understand powering down being useful, but not why removing the plug is of use. Could you explain?

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2012 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)


Another tip I learned that may be obvious: don't leave your external drives plugged in all the time. Turn them on when you need them and, after you have checked that the data migration was successful, carefully eject the external drive from your desktop, power down and disconnect the power source.



You means pull the plug from the socket? I can understand powering down being useful, but not why removing the plug is of use. Could you explain?


Pull the USB plugs from the PC. You can leave the drives plugged into your outlet/power strip. As long as they aren't plugged into the PC, they won't suck power or heat up.

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2012 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

You means pull the plug from the socket? I can understand powering down being useful, but not why removing the plug is of use. Could you explain?

This is what I mean by the power cable transformer, a little box about five inches long that is in-line between the hard-drive and the power outlet in the wall:



If you leave this plugged into a live socket, the LED on the box remains illuminated and the box remains warm. I turn mine completely off using a surge-protecting power strip. Otherwise, yes, I'd pull the power cable out of the wall.

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2012 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

If you leave this plugged into a live socket, the LED on the box remains illuminated and the box remains warm. I turn mine completely off using a surge-protecting power strip. Otherwise, yes, I'd pull the power cable out of the wall.

I think a lot of people don't realize that, in the case of many electronics and appliances, even when they're turned off they're still drawing power if plugged in. Maybe not as much, but it adds up. I agree with the advice to have everything plugged into a surge protector, and just shut it off when you leave home for the day.

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2012 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

IOMEGA! ACH! I can't tell you how much aggravation and how many music masters are stuck on broken Jaz cartridges or how many Jaz drives I went through before I gave up.

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2012 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

IOMEGA! ACH! I can't tell you how much aggravation and how many music masters are stuck on broken Jaz cartridges or how many Jaz drives I went through before I gave up.

I guess its a crap shoot then. Others had no problem with either WD or Seagate. I'm on my second Seagate now. It was my back up drive which I just loaded up with stuff and unplugged and put away.

Since my initial drive crashed on the 31st, I am using this backup drive hooked up to my computer. But every few hours it disengages and reboots on its own. I even get a warning box that says the drive was not ejected correctly and I may loose data. So going to unplug this bugger before I loose everything!

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2012 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Interesting. I leave my drives plugged into the power strip and they are never warm unless I plug them into the PC and fire up.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2016 - 6:08 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

long time update. I eventually went with a LacCie external drive, and it's worked flawlessly. Love it.

My old Seagate GoFlex is limping along. It still works though I don't trust it as a full time back up. So I use it as a second back up, add stuff to it then disconnect it and put the external in storage.

My question:

I've always used it on my Mac but I have some files on my PC's I want to retrieve. (Because I plan to get rid of the PC's) Can I safely connect an external drive I use for my Mac, (In this case the Seagate GoFlex) to a PC, and copy over some stuff? I don't remember if I formatted it exclusively for a Mac.

Is there any risk in trying? Will the drive be recognizable on the PC? Will I kill the external drive if I even attempt this?

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2016 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

Select the drive and "Get Info." If it is "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)," then the Windows computer will not recognize it without an extension, like Paragon's HFS+ for Windows.

If the external is formatted for FAT32 or ExFAT, often the default from the factory, then the drive will be recognized by both systems. Mac OS X can natively read NTFS, commonly used on Windows, but it cannot write to that file structure without an extension. (Again, see Paragon, or some other publisher.)

Other alternatives include "flash" media (SD cards and thumb drives), or networking. Unfortunately, Windows does not do "target mode."

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2016 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

I've only ever used Iomega. I got a 1 TB drive (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001D7REJ4/) in August 2009 and it still works; I only upgraded because I needed more space and wanted a duplicate backup in case against all odds my computer and my backup failed around the same time. I got this 2 TB drive (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003HIXOOQ/) from them in September 2011, so I haven't had it long enough to speak to its longevity, but I can say that it's functioned perfectly so far and worked just fine out of the box, and the Firewire connection has been noticeably better than the USB connection of the previous drive. And in December I got another 2 TB drive (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0035JFV5W/) to store rips of my Blu-rays and DVDs in case they get damaged (and also to facilitate playing Blu-rays on my non-BD-supporting Mac); all I can say about that one is it works fine so far. But so far Iomega's products haven't caused any frustration or, more importantly, loss of files, so I'm happy to recommend their stuff.

All of the above are still running fine, four more years down the line!

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2016 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Select the drive and "Get Info." If it is "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)," then the Windows computer will not recognize it without an extension, like Paragon's HFS+ for Windows.

If the external is formatted for FAT32 or ExFAT, often the default from the factory, then the drive will be recognized by both systems. Mac OS X can natively read NTFS, commonly used on Windows, but it cannot write to that file structure without an extension. (Again, see Paragon, or some other publisher.)

Other alternatives include "flash" media (SD cards and thumb drives), or networking. Unfortunately, Windows does not do "target mode."


Thxs for the help!

 
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