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 Posted:   Jan 20, 2014 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

JBA: Could never understand why it was touted this set was "complete."

The HANGOVER SQUARE is only about some 20 mins. or so.

If you want more of it, you have to access other sources...


GK: All FOX had. The other "sources" are exactly that.


I need to ask a question about that. Between the Tsunami CD and collectors' tapes, there are at least 15 other HANGOVER SQUARE cues out there, almost the complete background score. As Fox is apparently the legal owner of this music, and these collectors' tapes and the Tsunami CD were therefore made from materials that actually, in a sense, belong to Fox, was it not possible for Varese to incorporate cues from these other sources? I am a not a lawyer - I do not know the intricacies of things like this. I am asking this out of curiosity.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2014 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

A quick note about the extended finale of THE MAN IN THE GREY FLANNEL SUIT:

It's already been mentioned here that a giant part of the End Title is dialed out in the film. If you want to see how it would have worked, start the End Title from the CD right after Lee J. Cobb says "No charge" in the last scene in his office, and watch how the music flows right along with the editing of the film, and changes at key points (like Cobb's last exchange with Peck, Peck outside, Peck getting in the car, etc.), all building up to the wonderful crescendo, instead of it popping up out of nowhere, as it does in the film.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2014 - 12:25 AM   
 By:   arbogast 2007   (Member)

Any idea why Herrmann did not receive a "proper" Oscar statuette in 1942? It's hard to make out in the following picture, but that's not an "Oscar Oscar". I find this odd, because E. W. Korngold a few years prior received the statuette.



According to the www.oscars.org website:

"Due to a metal shortage during World War II, Oscars® were made of painted plaster for three years. Following the war, the Academy invited recipients to redeem the plaster figures for gold-plated metal ones."

Hope this helps.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2014 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Best 400 smackers ever spent on a CD set!


Yep, my sentiments exactly.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   E-Wan   (Member)

Some scores from this amazing box set have been released again in the past:

Jane Eyre (Kritzerland)
The Day The Earth Stood Still (Kritzerland & La-La Land)
5 Fingers (Kritzerland)
Hangover Square (Kritzerland)
The Snows of Kilimanjaro (Kritzerland)
White Witch Doctor (Kritzerland)
Beneath The 12-Mile Reef (Kritzerland)
The Egyptian (La-La Land)
Journey To The Center Of The Earth (Varese 500)


Which ones of these re-releases are worth upgrading due better sound or more music?
Thanks for any info.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Some scores from this amazing box set have been released again in the past:

Jane Eyre (Kritzerland)
The Day The Earth Stood Still (Kritzerland & La-La Land)
5 Fingers (Kritzerland)
Hangover Square (Kritzerland)
The Snows of Kilimanjaro (Kritzerland)
White Witch Doctor (Kritzerland)
Beneath The 12-Mile Reef (Kritzerland)
The Egyptian (La-La Land)
Journey To The Center Of The Earth (Varese 500)


Which ones of these re-releases are worth upgrading due better sound or more music?
Thanks for any info.


Of those, I have Jane Eyre, Hangover Square, and Day the Earth Stood Still (plus the original Varese release of the expanded Egyptian). The reissues of Egyptian and Day the Earth Stood Still have some adjustments made to the sound while the Hangover Square album has additional music not heard on the box set. I’m not entirely sure, but I think the other ones are straight reissues of the masters used for the box set.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2019 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   E-Wan   (Member)

Of those, I have Jane Eyre, Hangover Square, and Day the Earth Stood Still (plus the original Varese release of the expanded Egyptian). The reissues of Egyptian and Day the Earth Stood Still have some adjustments made to the sound while the Hangover Square album has additional music not heard on the box set. I’m not entirely sure, but I think the other ones are straight reissues of the masters used for the box set.

Thank you very much for your reply.

Are these sound adjustments of The Egyptian and Day the Earth Stood Still significant or slight?

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2019 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

This came out 8 years ago?!

Wtf!

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2019 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Best 400 smackers ever spent on a CD set!


Yep, my sentiments exactly.


That's alot if smackers for alot of 30 second cues!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2019 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

I believe that Kritzerland's BENEATH THE 12 MILE REEF improved upon the version heard in the Fox Box. Less "flutter," I think.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2019 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

And the LLL release of The Egyptian sounds stunning and comes in an equally stunning package, plus you get the full score, not just Herrmann's parts.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2019 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I believe that Kritzerland's BENEATH THE 12 MILE REEF improved upon the version heard in the Fox Box. Less "flutter," I think.

D'oh!

Just bought the FSM version ( though I am quite happy with that one smile )

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2022 - 11:42 PM   
 By:   rjc   (Member)

This treasure trove remains my most regretful miss in nearly 30 years of soundtrack collecting. Granted, a number were later subsequently released and improved upon (and I didn't hesitate on those), but still... frown

Apologies if already mentioned in this gargantuan thread, but I count nine scores that remain somewhat exclusive to it:

THE MAN IN THE GREY FLANNEL SUIT - TENDER IS THE NIGHT - ANNA AND THE KING OF SIAM - THE GHOST AND MRS. MUIR - A HATFUL OF RAIN - GARDEN OF EVIL - KING OF THE KHYBER RIFLES - BLUE DENIM - PRINCE OF PLAYERS

All had existing releases either mostly complete, in suite form, or new recordings. Of those, only the Fox CD that paired TENDER, FLANNEL and HATFUL, is absent from my collection, though it is fairly affordable. The reason I don't have that one isn't a case of holding out for this seemingly impossible dream set; I just never got around to it. But maybe it's time to, as I wonder if any of these (perhaps MRS. MUIR?) will ever be revisited again...

Coming in second to the Herrmann set: Vol. 3 of the Hitchcock Hour, which like Kamen's ADVENTURES IN BABYSITTING (my no. 3), all currently priced way too high for me.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2022 - 11:53 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Still a very resounding set which I still get out of mostly when Im the mood for vintage recordings. Although the Herrmann re-recordings are my usual preference. I must add the THE EGYPTIAN's sound quality and perrformance here remains unmatched.

I regret missing out the Rozsa FSM Megaset and the Varese SPARTACUS multi set.

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2022 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   rjc   (Member)

Still a very resounding set which I still get out of mostly when Im the mood for vintage recordings. Although the Herrmann re-recordings are my usual preference. I must add the THE EGYPTIAN's sound quality and perrformance here remains unmatched.

I regret missing out the Rozsa FSM Megaset and the Varese SPARTACUS multi set.


Those I do have, Amer. The Rozsa wasn’t too close to being a miss as was the Herrmann, but close enough.

The thing I remember about the Herrmann was that somehow the announcement passed by without me noticing and when I did find out, everyplace I checked was out, except Intrada, where I think it was still listed. That is until Jeff told me, sorry, none available. That’s how it is sometimes.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2022 - 4:10 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Still a very resounding set which I still get out of mostly when Im the mood for vintage recordings. Although the Herrmann re-recordings are my usual preference. I must add the THE EGYPTIAN's sound quality and perrformance here remains unmatched.

I regret missing out the Rozsa FSM Megaset and the Varese SPARTACUS multi set.


I actually missed out on this set because I didn’t expect it to sell out as quickly as it did. However, I have managed to obtain some of the reissues of the non-perpetuity owned scores in the set and obtained the original Varese release of the complete Egyptian prior to the set’s release.

I managed to snag the Rózsa Treasury when Lukas did a limited reissue back in 2014 and still love its wealth of Rózsa goodness. That said, I passed on the Spartacus set due to a combination of costs and not wanting the two discs worth of love theme variations (it’s a beautiful theme, but two discs worth of it is overkill to say the least).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2022 - 4:24 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

Jane Eyre is my favorite, I play it about once a month. I guess you could say the sound is archival but I love it. I’ll have to give The Egyptian a spin too.

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2022 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

This treasure trove remains my most regretful miss in nearly 30 years of soundtrack collecting.

I actually missed out on this set because I didn’t expect it to sell out as quickly as it did.

Same here, guys. At least I got the Rozsa set, but this will always be a regret. It just disappeared super fast! (I think it sold out before it was even shipping?) 1000 copies was far too few IMO; it should have been 1500.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2022 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   JRP   (Member)

Yeah, I missed this too but I’ve bought all the subsequent individual releases of the scores. I’m especially waiting for a re-release of King of the Khyber Rifles because the original release wasn’t complete as far as I remember.

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2022 - 10:36 PM   
 By:   VeronicaMars   (Member)

This treasure trove remains my most regretful miss in nearly 30 years of soundtrack collecting.

I actually missed out on this set because I didn’t expect it to sell out as quickly as it did.

Same here, guys. At least I got the Rozsa set, but this will always be a regret. It just disappeared super fast! (I think it sold out before it was even shipping?) 1000 copies was far too few IMO; it should have been 1500.

Yavar


You are correct in that assessment Yavar and I have been saying that for years. Varese underestimated the popularity of Herrmann and I also feel that 2000 copies would've been more than enough for people to buy it and sell out.

My rationale of only limiting it to 1000 was definitely Spartacus and the cost of that project that I know hampered future projects like this one pretty much forced the label to join forces with Cutting Edge in late 2012 if I remember right. Spartacus got 5000 copies which later on the label discounted severely just to sell them all out and probably just to break even which is kind of sad in a way since it was Robert Townson's dream project. I bought two used copies off eBay before they discounted it at around 80 dollars for the price of one set. I think it might have been as low as 70. I forget. And all copies had the same exact problem, that slipcase always got a crack during shipping and they never fixed it.

Unfortunately, he should've rethought how many copies Spartacus should've been (I think 3000 to 3500 at most for me which was more than plenty) and how many discs (I think 4 would've been enough plus the DVD in a much more tightly edited version. The different versions of the love theme were nice but you only really needed the newly recorded interpretations by the different composers they got for it on one disc). Then the Herrmann box should've been upped to 2000 copies thanks to the savings on the expenses for Spartacus (1500 to 2000 less copies) than what ended up being and doing it at an seriously underestimated amount which sold out almost instantly and still has people trying to get one and shelling out crazy amounts for it.

 
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