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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      Non-Film Score Discussion: FANTASIA Blu-ray    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2       Last Post   Posted:   Nov 20, 2014 - 12:15 PM     By:   filmusicnow   (Member) I always thought that "Fantasia" was the most underrated animated feature Walt Disney ever did.    Posted:   Nov 20, 2014 - 12:21 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) I always thought that "Fantasia" was the most underrated animated feature Walt Disney ever did. In total agreement. Timeless. Classic. Art on the screen.    Posted:   Nov 20, 2014 - 1:20 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) I always thought that "Fantasia" was the most underrated animated feature Walt Disney ever did. In total agreement. Timeless. Classic. Art on the screen. I don't think it's underrated. There were plenty of opinions regarding the way they handled the music. Isn't "Right of Spring" way slowed down? It's not a family film either. Most kids would be bored to death. (The only segment that appeared to excite the tots was The Sorcerers Apprentice sequence.) I always loved animation, but I didn't get the brilliance of the film until I saw it again when I was 18. When I saw Fantasia, Snow White and Bambi as a young adult was when my jaw dropped at the sheer beauty and technical achievements of those films.    Posted:   Nov 21, 2014 - 5:00 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) So "Clair de Lune" is technically on the Blu Ray, but you have to access it via the internet? Do you need an Apple box or similar interface? As for the DVD, "Clair de Lune" is only on the deluxe multi-disc set but not the standard DVD?    Posted:   Nov 21, 2014 - 6:26 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) I don't think it's underrated. There were plenty of opinions regarding the way they handled the music. Isn't "Right of Spring" way slowed down? It's not a family film either. Most kids would be bored to death. (The only segment that appeared to excite the tots was The Sorcerers Apprentice sequence.) I always loved animation, but I didn't get the brilliance of the film until I saw it again when I was 18. When I saw Fantasia, Snow White and Bambi as a young adult was when my jaw dropped at the sheer beauty and technical achievements of those films. I would imagine Filmusicnow was referring to how it was critically trashed upon its first release and how it took decades to gain its rightful status as a masterpiece. That's how I interpreted it, anyway. And I would agree with your comment about kids being bored today. Most of them would probably be clueless for how to absorb and appreciate it. (Not enuff blood and 'splosions, maybe.) Their loss.    Posted:   Nov 21, 2014 - 11:39 PM     By:   Richard-W   (Member) I beg to differ. I remember kids enjoying FANTASIA. I didn't see the film until it was re-released in December 1969. I was just a kid, but I loved it. I hung onto every note and movement. I spent a lot of time watching the re-release in 1977 and again kids were receptive and "got" it. True, the Sorcerer's Apprentice and Night on Bald Mountain episodes are the highlights, but it was all good. Theaters were crowded in those days, and I don't recall anyone complaining about being bored by FANTASIA. The score was re-recorded for the 1982 re-release. Deems Taylor, the narrator and musical director of the film, was revoiced. The new voice is nowhere near as good. He just doesn't sound right. The VHS had the original soundtrack and voice. A few snippets of Deems Taylor's voice were lost so Disney revoiced him for the DVD and blu-rays. The least they could have done was give us the original voice and soundtrack as an option, even if it was imperfect. Disney also put bras on the nymphs and re-framed one scene to remove the image of a black horseboy that might be construed as offensive. Audiences have changed, however. Today's youngsters want endless action and an obvious, shallow story or they complain that nothing is happening. Many adults, too. That says something about movies today and about audiences, but it's no fault of the film. FANTASIA is sophisticated storytelling through the higher musical mind and genuinely brilliant.    Posted:   Nov 22, 2014 - 7:52 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) I don't remember them adding "bras" after the fact. They did cut out some scenes deemed offensive in later years. Scenes they couldn't cut out (do to timing with the music) were blown up and re-framed so the little black centaur girl was out of the shot. Here's some censored scenes:    Posted:   Nov 23, 2014 - 10:36 AM     By:   Richard-W   (Member) Centaur. That's the word I was trying to remember. Thanks for posting the censored bit. Much ado about nothing. There's no disgrace in letting a movie be seen as part of it's time. People will understand that. The same holds true for SONG OF THE SOUTH (1946).    Posted:   Nov 23, 2014 - 3:33 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) The Looney Tunes DVD's had no problems acknowledging their own somewhat "unenlightened" past. Disney should have shown the same kind of balls.    Posted:   Nov 23, 2014 - 4:02 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) The Looney Tunes DVD's had no problems acknowledging their own somewhat "unenlightened" past. Disney should have shown the same kind of balls. Loony Tunes were never PC and always pushed the boundaries with their content. Disney on the other hand always maintained a PC family friendly image. Disney isn't about to risk putting off a large demographic and $$$$$$ just to be historically correct.    Posted:   Nov 23, 2014 - 4:10 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Loony Tunes were never PC and always pushed the boundaries with their content. Disney on the other hand always maintained a PC family friendly image. Disney isn't about to risk putting off a large demographic and $$$$$$ just to be historically correct. That is true, of course, but Disney made the aformentioned "Song Of The South". They certainly can't unmake it, despite their attempts.    Posted:   Nov 23, 2014 - 4:48 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) Loony Tunes were never PC and always pushed the boundaries with their content. Disney on the other hand always maintained a PC family friendly image. Disney isn't about to risk putting off a large demographic and $$$$$$ just to be historically correct. That is true, of course, but Disney made the aformentioned "Song Of The South". They certainly can't unmake it, despite their attempts. Agreed they should release Song Of The South again. Pretty sure it was still in circulation in the 80's.    Posted:   Nov 23, 2014 - 4:57 PM     By:   johnjohnson   (Member) Agreed they should release Song Of The South again. Pretty sure it was still in circulation in the 80's. The film is still around on the secondary market. The film has been released on video in its entirety in various European, Latin American, and Asian countries—in the UK it was released on PAL VHS tape in 1982 and again in 1991, and in Japan it appeared on NTSC VHS, Beta, and laserdisc in 1985 then again in 1990 with subtitles during songs. (Under Japanese copyright law it is now in the public domain.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South    Posted:   Nov 23, 2014 - 6:45 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) Agreed they should release Song Of The South again. Pretty sure it was still in circulation in the 80's. The film is still around on the secondary market. The film has been released on video in its entirety in various European, Latin American, and Asian countries—in the UK it was released on PAL VHS tape in 1982 and again in 1991, and in Japan it appeared on NTSC VHS, Beta, and laserdisc in 1985 then again in 1990 with subtitles during songs. (Under Japanese copyright law it is now in the public domain.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South So Disney is fine with releasing the film as long as the potentially offended demographic doesn't see it.    Posted:   Nov 24, 2014 - 12:30 PM     By:   johnjohnson   (Member) Agreed they should release Song Of The South again. Pretty sure it was still in circulation in the 80's. The film is still around on the secondary market. The film has been released on video in its entirety in various European, Latin American, and Asian countries—in the UK it was released on PAL VHS tape in 1982 and again in 1991, and in Japan it appeared on NTSC VHS, Beta, and laserdisc in 1985 then again in 1990 with subtitles during songs. (Under Japanese copyright law it is now in the public domain.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South So Disney is fine with releasing the film as long as the potentially offended demographic doesn't see it. Guess so. Hence, even when some materials are said to be "in the public domain" there can be some use restrictions. In that case, the term copyright-free is sometimes used instead. Many pre-1953 Japanese and non-Japanese films are considered to be in the public domain in Japan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_Japan    Posted:   Nov 25, 2014 - 9:16 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) So "Clair de Lune" is technically on the Blu Ray, but you have to access it via the internet? Do you need an Apple box or similar interface? As for the DVD, "Clair de Lune" is only on the deluxe multi-disc set but not the standard DVD?     Non-Film Score Discussion: FANTASIA Blu-ray    << < 1 2  >   Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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