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 Posted:   Sep 26, 2011 - 8:21 PM   
 By:   ShogunOfHarlem   (Member)

This isn't a thread to discuss (necessarily) the potential release of the Supergirl score by FSM, Intrada or La La Land. My goal is to discuss the previous Supergirl OST releases and how they correspond with the film. (all versions)

My two questions are: Is there any story behind the scoring of Supergirl and the SNAFUs that was the Silva screen release? The other would be: If there was to be an exhaustive Supergirl complete score (meaning everything Jerry recorded for the film) what would be on it.

1985 Varèse Sarabande Album
"Main Title" (3:12)
"'Where Is She?'" (1:05)
"Black Magic" (4:06)
"First Flight" (4:14)
"The Butterfly" (1:34)
"'Where Is Linda?'" (1:14)
"The Monster Tractor" (7:26)
"The Bracelet" (1:24)
"Monster Storm" (2:55)
"A New School" (2:08)
"The Flying Car" (1:25)
"The Map" (1:10)
"9M-3" (1:41)
"End Title" (6:05)

1993 Silva Screen Album
"Overture" (6:07)
"Main Title & Argo City" (3:15)
"Argo City Mall" (0:56)
"The Butterfly" (1:36)
"The Journey Begins" (1:12)
"Arrival on Earth/Flying Ballet" (5:36)
"Chicago Lights/Street Attack" (2:23)
"The Superman Poster" (0:52)
"A New School" (2:13)
"The Map" (1:10)
"Ethan Spellbound" (2:13)
"The Monster Tractor" (7:34)
"Flying Ballet - Alternate Version" (2:13)
"The Map - Alternate Version" (1:13)
"The Bracelet" (1:44)
"First Kiss/The Monster Storm" (4:35)
"'Where Is She'/The Monster Bumper Cars" (2:57)
"The Flying Bumper Car" (1:28)
"'Where's Linda?'" (1:21)
"Black Magic" (4:08)
"The Phantom Zone" (3:42)
"The Vortex/The End of Zaltar" (5:49)
"The Final Showdown & Victory/End Title - Short Version" (12:10)
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 Posted:   Sep 26, 2011 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   ShogunOfHarlem   (Member)

I know that so far the Film version of the main title and the End Title hasn't been released on either Album. As far as the Main title goes there are at least three different versions recorded: The Film version, the Varese version (sans synths) and the Silva Screen version. (demo with synths)

The End title on the other hand, also has to have more than two versions: The Film version, the Overture (without synths) and the Shorter version with synths and a slightly different main title reprise at the end.

It appears that a number of the tracks on the Silva screen version (Either purported film versions or alternate takes) are demos.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   adamclark83   (Member)

I have the 1993 Silva release and there are two tracks in the wrong order.

Track 8 "The Superman Poster" should come after the following track "A New School"as Linda/Kara sees the poster in Lucy's room.

Also, Track 15 "The Bracelet" is where Linda/Kara uses the bracelet to track the omegahedron towards the carnival so it should be after the next track "First Kiss/The Monster Storm".

If they do release a complete score re-release, then I would want it to have the full-length end credits with the swooshes.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

Oh god! You mean there's more music? I have trouble getting through this one as is. Goldsmith is my favorite composer. I am usually a Goldsmith completist, but this one just never did it for me. Anyway, for those of you want it, I hope you get it and appreciate it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

I'm of the "less is more" camp. I'd prefer the shorter Varese CD to the massively overlong Silva. It's terrific music, but there's just way too much of it. And if there's even more music still unreleased....

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

A completely remastered and restored edition of this is at the very top of my wants list.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

This is in desperate need of a remastered new complete edition. The Varese and Silva both use different takes, plus there are alternates still missing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 11:46 PM   
 By:   TruPretender   (Member)

To answer the question: There are the tracks that appear on BOTH Varese & Silva editions. THEN there are alternate more ORCHESTRAL versions (which I am DESPERATE to hear) such as the film version of "The Adventure Begins" and a more Orchestral version of "Arrival on Earth" which is sans synths and has more chaotic flute work. Good stuff that I heard from a friend overseas who had access to those tracks.
THEN the biggest of all - the "Love Theme" suite, a 2 or so minute suite, mellow and in the style of "Love Theme From Superman" track by Williams on S:TM Soundtrack.

I personally feel that even those who don't like Supergirl as much as other scores, might be amazed at how great that score could sound, given it gets a remastered/expanded release. 2CD please? I have been on this one for YEEEEEEEEEEEEARS! wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2012 - 2:47 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

I'm of the "less is more" camp. I'd prefer the shorter Varese CD to the massively overlong Silva. It's terrific music, but there's just way too much of it. And if there's even more music still unreleased....

Seconded. There's tons of padding in the expanded version. This is one of Goldsmith's medium quality scores of the 1980s (like King Solomon's Mines, but five or so rungs below Legend), it's clearly not in need of a complete version. But the sound quality itself could surely be better.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2012 - 2:50 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

THEN the biggest of all - the "Love Theme" suite, a 2 or so minute suite, mellow and in the style of "Love Theme From Superman" track by Williams on S:TM Soundtrack.

A SUITE of cues that totals all of two minutes would be the BIGGEST thing? Oh boy, priorities sure have been shifting since the old "we gotta have at least SOMETHING" era of soundtrack releases. wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2012 - 3:38 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

A two disc remastered cd would be fine. All the Varese OST Album cues without the synthesizers can be reproduced on disc 2- as these are interesting versions too. Bring this on as a 5000 ltd edition please!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2012 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   TruPretender   (Member)

THEN the biggest of all - the "Love Theme" suite, a 2 or so minute suite, mellow and in the style of "Love Theme From Superman" track by Williams on S:TM Soundtrack.

A SUITE of cues that totals all of two minutes would be the BIGGEST thing? Oh boy, priorities sure have been shifting since the old "we gotta have at least SOMETHING" era of soundtrack releases. wink


LOL. I meant as far as unused/unheard music. It's the one track that WAS recorded at some point that has NEVER been issued.

A two disc remastered cd would be fine. All the Varese OST Album cues without the synthesizers can be reproduced on disc 2- as these are interesting versions too. Bring this on as a 5000 ltd edition please!

Oh please LLL or Intrada!

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2012 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

THEN there are alternate more ORCHESTRAL versions (which I am DESPERATE to hear) such as the film version of "The Adventure Begins" and a more Orchestral version of "Arrival on Earth" which is sans synths and has more chaotic flute work. Good stuff that I heard from a friend overseas who had access to those tracks.
THEN the biggest of all - the "Love Theme" suite, a 2 or so minute suite, mellow and in the style of "Love Theme From Superman" track by Williams on S:TM Soundtrack.


What you describe sounds very much like a rerecorded suite Roy Budd put together for a compilation album he recorded in the 80s. Budd recorded "Arrival on Earth" (minus electronics), as well as an extended arrangement of the love theme (which I am pretty certain was arranged by Budd, not Goldsmith).

The Budd album is extremely rare and CD-Rs/rips of it have been passed-around among collectors for years, many of whom are under the impression it is unreleased alternate cues from the film.

http://www.amazon.com/Final-Frontier-Original-Master-Recording/dp/B002XNH07S

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2012 - 1:17 AM   
 By:   Richard May   (Member)

The Budd album is extremely rare and CD-Rs/rips of it have been passed-around among collectors for years, many of whom are under the impression it is unreleased alternate cues from the film.

http://www.amazon.com/Final-Frontier-Original-Master-Recording/dp/B002XNH07S


The music from this CD is available on Amazon for about £5 on two different albums. One called Space Movie Themes and the other Big Screen Adventure. Don't have the CDs in front of me but think Supergirl suite is on the second of these. Not always perfect performances but definitely worth picking up.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2012 - 1:34 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

The Roy Budd recording was the first version of SUPERGIRL I ever heard and he takes the actual theme at such a fast tempo that when I finally heard the original Varese LP I couldn't understand why Goldsmith was doing it so slowly! I have that Final Frontier set and it's generally pretty good; many of the tracks were originally on a nice 2LP set released by BBC Records.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2012 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   TruPretender   (Member)

That is probably the recordings that I have heard, then. Regardless, a two CD release would be incomplete without it!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2012 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   ShogunOfHarlem   (Member)

I'm of the "less is more" camp. I'd prefer the shorter Varese CD to the massively overlong Silva. It's terrific music, but there's just way too much of it. And if there's even more music still unreleased....

Fair enough. I've grown to realize that I can never fully appreciate a film score unless I've heard everything. Alien comes to mind. I didn't think I would like it as much as I did but I do. The Synth riffs appear to be a polarizing issue with fans of the score. I like the score both with and without whooshes.

My biggest issue with the Silva screen release is that much of the tracks are mis-labelled as being used in the film when in the case of the main title it's a demo track that was used in the film trailers and in some other cases the Flying Ballet "film version" was used only in the director's cut of the film.

I'm curious to get a history of how the film was scored since it is kind of screwy.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2013 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   meegle   (Member)

I love this score and listen to it often. If there were 4 hours more of music from it I would listen to it.

wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2013 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

What I found so amazing was how Jerry so closely emulate John's Superman them yet came up with something completely different. I really believe both themes live in the same musical universe.
I also love "The Monster Tractor" for that "Godzilla" vibe. Seems Jerry had a lot of fun with this one.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   meegle   (Member)

Yes! Godzilla reference! Awesome!

 
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