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 Posted:   Sep 18, 2011 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I actually thought Jay Ferguson scored this 1986 film, but now it appears that he only wrote a couple of songs for this movie.

Joel Goldsmith wrote the score, as a 29-year old. And what a score, clearly inspired by Tangerine Dream and Harold Faltermeyer. The 2 score-tracks are among the best things I have heard in a while, I can't believe no one has ever talked about this score on this forum! I didn't even know there was a soundtrack album.

Does anyone have this soundtrack? Was it out on CD, or LP only?

Did Goldsmith write anything else in this style?

Crystal Heart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Gozhy7tGg

Breaking Free:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8avNipEFUaQ&feature=related

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2011 - 11:02 PM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

I have a CD-R with music from the films and television work by Joel Goldsmith and some of the material on this is previously released and some are previously unreleased. One of the tracks is Crystal Heart from Crystal Heart. The track is good but far from Joel`s best work. So if you like this you should check out some other scores by him.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2011 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Do you have a track list from the CDR?

You say Crystal Heart is not his best work, but did he write anything else in this "vein"? I'm not particularly interested in pure orchestral stuff, if he did any of that.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2011 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Nice!

I'm not familiar with anything else by Joel that sounds similar (heck, I'm not even very familiar with Goldsmith jr. in the first place), but he definitely taps into Vangelis territory in STARGATE UNIVERSE -- a more contemporary form of electronica, if you will. Loved that show and music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2011 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

Very nice! I'd buy a cd of it...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2011 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Wow indeed....I always like Joel's stuff, this is different and this is very nice ! I'd buy a CD like this.

Of course, close to zero chance of one happening, seems like Joel's own label is pretty much DOA right?

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2011 - 3:24 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I e-mailed his site a week ago with a few questions. Zero reply.

I'll for sure burn these tracks to CDR before they eventually disappear from youtube.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2011 - 3:58 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

Joel Goldsmith wrote the score, as a 29-year old. And what a score, clearly inspired by Tangerine Dream and Harold Faltermeyer.

My hopes weren't exactly high after this announcement, but the music still manages to fall short.

Extremely trivial.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2011 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Joel Goldsmith wrote the score, as a 29-year old. And what a score, clearly inspired by Tangerine Dream and Harold Faltermeyer.

My hopes weren't exactly high after this announcement, but the music still manages to fall short.

Extremely trivial.


Far more interesting than his father, at least.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2011 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Joel Goldsmith wrote the score, as a 29-year old. And what a score, clearly inspired by Tangerine Dream and Harold Faltermeyer.

My hopes weren't exactly high after this announcement, but the music still manages to fall short.

Extremely trivial.


Far more interesting than his father, at least.



If The Real BJ Bien were here, he'd say : "That's a stupid f*cking statement, what a f*cking stupid thing to say" razz

BUT...we can just say... that's a little extreme. Joel is good, nowhere near his dad however. But these Crystal Heart tracks are dammed good. big grin

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2014 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I wonder if there will ever be a score release for this?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2014 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

Joel had his own record company but now when he`s gone I guess it is up to Ford A. Thaxton and his BSX to continue releasing his work but I can be wrong.

When it comes to JG JR`s best scores that are unreleased then personally I would rather see releases of such scores as Rattled, Joshua Tree, Man`s Best Friend, The Man With Two Brains and even Watchers. But if Crystal Heart would be released I certainly would buy it, that`s for sure.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2014 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Joel had his own record company but now when he`s gone I guess it is up to Ford A. Thaxton and his BSX to continue releasing his work but I can be wrong.

When it comes to JG JR`s best scores that are unreleased then personally I would rather see releases of such scores as Rattled, Joshua Tree, Man`s Best Friend, The Man With Two Brains and even Watchers. But if Crystal Heart would be released I certainly would buy it, that`s for sure.


Watchers opening/closing sounded like metallic Brad Fiedel-stuff. Have you heard/seen No Safe Haven (1987)?

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2014 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

Joshua Tree and Watchers, hell even Maniac Cop 3 - Badge of Silence would be awesome to see released, but it seems that Joel is forgotten by the labels...
(Mans best friend is out there in the jungle so that is not first priority but a great score too)

Watchers is i.m.o very Ramboesque sounding and some parts of it sounds like taken from father Jerrys library, a great score

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

Joshua Tree and Watchers, hell even Maniac Cop 3 - Badge of Silence would be awesome to see released, but it seems that Joel is forgotten by the labels...
(Mans best friend is out there in the jungle so that is not first priority but a great score too)

Watchers is i.m.o very Ramboesque sounding and some parts of it sounds like taken from father Jerrys library, a great score


While we're on the subject of Joel's work, any plans to release any of his Stargate work? Especially SGU which was an intriguing, different but interesting set of his work

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 11:12 PM   
 By:   Jim Bailey   (Member)

I hate not being able to listen to what everyone is raving about here. Are the two tracks available anywhere??

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2014 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I hate not being able to listen to what everyone is raving about here. Are the two tracks available anywhere??

Unfortunately, the clips have been taken down, but here is the complete film, with a great main theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Y2PEQnDJk

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

So I finally saw the complete film on youtube. Not too bad actually, I don't see why this couldn't have become a bigger hit in the 80s than it was.

I don't think there is enough score material in the film for a full score album, but as long as this has only seen an LP release I would have loved to see a CD release of the soundtrack, featuring all the score plus songs. Some very nice variations of the main theme, and the "Breaking Free" scene was very effective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Y2PEQnDJk&feature=player_detailpage#t=3729

 
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