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 Posted:   Apr 6, 2002 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   Thread Assasin   (Member)

I recently treated myself to the Criterion DVD release of "Rebecca" and have been enjoying the isolated score feature immensely. Portions of the score are married to the effects track, which means the sounds of ringing telephones, crowd murmurings, and china cupids smashing to the floor intrude into the music. I have the Marco Polo CD from the early 90's, but does anyone know if the original tracks of this great score were ever relased on CD, or if there are any other re-recordings other than the Marco Polo? Thanks!

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2002 - 8:09 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I'm pretty sure that the Marco Polo rerecording is the only thing out there. I've not heard of even a lousy Tsunami, Soundtrack Library or Sound Stage boot with original tracks. I enjoy the Marco Polo version a lot, and usually drag it out again every time the film shows up on one of the cable movie stations.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2002 - 8:22 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

I belive Criterions bew NOTORIOUS DVD features an isolated score track as well. Has anyone here listened to it?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2002 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   boadicea   (Member)

I understand that Varese Sarabande will be releasing a new re-recording of this score, conducted by Joel McNeely. The main title, for the new release, appeared on their IN SESSION compilation.

I never liked the Marco Polo release reconstructed and conducted by Adriano. It just didn't sound like Franz Waxman to me.

b.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2002 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   Thread Assasin   (Member)

Thanks for the responses. Haven't checked out the "Notorious" DVD, but hope to, soon. And if Varese is issuing a re-recording of "Rebecca," well then that IS good news. I do listen to the Marco Polo occasionally, but portions of it leave me a bit flat. Here's hoping the Varese version comes to light! Again, thanks for your input!

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2002 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

There was also a "suite" from "REBECCA" on the R.C.A. Charles Gerhardt recording of the "Classic Film Scores of Franz Waxman".
Very well done too!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2002 - 9:47 PM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

Too bad that the music-only tracks don't exist any more. Disney's restoration of the film a few years ago used the best available materials in ABC's possession (which they'd bought from the Selznick estate years earlier).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2002 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   Beatty   (Member)


I never liked the Marco Polo release reconstructed and conducted by Adriano. It just didn't sound like Franz Waxman to me.

b.


I was just listening to this CD and I agree. At the time it was a good effort but I think the bar has been raised since then.


 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2002 - 12:36 AM   
 By:   thinredline98   (Member)

It's not if Beatty that Varese is releasing Rebecca is that they definetly are. Wonderful score BTW. Begs to wonder how long, it's been on the shelf at Varese? I honestly think it should've been released when they issued their wonderful rerecording of Peyton Place. That would've been a grand treat. But they're getting it out and that's all that counts.

P.O.
Silver Streak (Henry Mancini) *****
(Absolutely Fab!)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2002 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I need to "rewatch" Rebecca and pay closer attention to the music. It has been a long time. The other day I watched The Paradine Case, another Hitchcock movie scored by Waxman. The melody written for scenes between Ann Todd and Gregory Peck was just stunning. Waxman writes such memorable melodies. Anyone know if this was ever released on CD?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2002 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   MichaelM   (Member)

I need to "rewatch" Rebecca and pay closer attention to the music. It has been a long time. The other day I watched The Paradine Case, another Hitchcock movie scored by Waxman. The melody written for scenes between Ann Todd and Gregory Peck was just stunning. Waxman writes such memorable melodies. Anyone know if this was ever released on CD?

Waxman adapted his PARADINE CASE score into a 12-minute concert suite called "Rhapsody for Piano and Orchestra". It can be heard on FRANZ WAXMAN - LEGENDS OF HOLLYWOOD VOLUME 1 (Varese Sarabande VSD-5242).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2002 - 10:00 PM   
 By:   boadicea   (Member)

I need to "rewatch" Rebecca and pay closer attention to the music. It has been a long time. The other day I watched The Paradine Case, another Hitchcock movie scored by Waxman. The melody written for scenes between Ann Todd and Gregory Peck was just stunning. Waxman writes such memorable melodies. Anyone know if this was ever released on CD?

Joan:

Koch has also released Waxman's RHAPSODY FOR PIANO AND ORCHESTRA on a disc entitled THE PARADINE CASE (Koch 3-7225-2H1). The disc also contains Waxman's THE CHARM BRACELET; Herrmann's HANGOVER SQUARE; North's CONCERTO FOR PIANO AND ORCHESTRA and a World Premiere of Herrmann's PRELUDE FOR PIANO.

b.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2002 - 12:57 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Thank you Michael M. and boudicea for your information. Looks like I have several good choices. Gracias.

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)



This is a really old thread but that's okay. I just want to comment that I just finished watching Hitchcock's Rebecca on TCM for about the 10th time. I was riveted as usual. Isn't it amazing how a 73 year old film can captivate you still? The score, the acting? Loved it....again.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 10:36 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Edw, I know there is a very famous picture; I've watched it many times. It does have a great score and some decent acting.

However, times have changed, especially for women. I just struggle with Fontaine's character. She is so simpy, drippy, and a constant hand-wringing total wimp. I just want her to tell Danvers, "Hey, I'm your boss so back off or your fired." I want her to confront her husband's callous behaviors. I want her to have some GUTS and backbone. I know, I know. If she'd been brave instead of wimpy, the plot wouldn't have worked, but I still struggle with her self-imposed helplessness. My problem or my bad.

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

She is so simpy, drippy, and a constant hand-wringing total wimp. I just want her to tell Danvers, "Hey, I'm your boss so back off or your fired." I want her to confront her husband's callous behaviors. I want her to have some GUTS and backbone. I know, I know. If she'd been brave instead of wimpy, the plot wouldn't have worked, but I still struggle with her self-imposed helplessness.



For added realism, I'd have liked her to be portrayed more like my ex-wife, with scenes of her hard at work in the kitchen, doing the laundry and general house cleaning, and fetching my slippers.
Then, as the film progresses and she becomes somewhat rebellious, Olivier could be shown putting her in her place and eventually getting rid of her, like I did.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 4:20 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

She is so simpy, drippy, and a constant hand-wringing total wimp. I just want her to tell Danvers, "Hey, I'm your boss so back off or your fired." I want her to confront her husband's callous behaviors. I want her to have some GUTS and backbone. I know, I know. If she'd been brave instead of wimpy, the plot wouldn't have worked, but I still struggle with her self-imposed helplessness.



For added realism, I'd have liked her to be portrayed more like my ex-wife, with scenes of her hard at work in the kitchen, doing the laundry and general house cleaning, and fetching my slippers.
Then, as the film progresses and she becomes somewhat rebellious, Olivier could be shown putting her in her place and eventually getting rid of her, like I did.



Man, she must have been GUTTED! big grin



 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 4:22 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

There was about 15 minutes of original tracks released on CINEMA Records back in the 70's. Flip side is Waxman's OBJECTIVE BURMA.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Actually, Tall Guy, I think she probably put razor blades or ground glass in Basil's slippers and then said, "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn," as she threw him out.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

There was about 15 minutes of original tracks released on CINEMA Records back in the 70's. Flip side is Waxman's OBJECTIVE BURMA.


That's what I thought, too, Ray, but when I posted about it years ago on this Board,
I believe it was Joe Caps who said I was wrong.

Whoever it was that corrected me claimed that the Cinema Records Lp release was a bootleg of the then-current, or about to be released, suites conducted by Gerhardt for the RCA series.

The Cinema Records LP was in mono as I recall, and sounded to me far more "archival" than
a current recording, so I never quite believed the assertion. Have you listened to the Cinema Records lp lately?

Many, many years ago, I once saw (or received) a short mimeographed (!) listing of original Golden Age scores available on reel-to-reel tape. This must have been in the late 1960s or early 1970s. Along with the usual Newman suspects like "Wuthering Heights," "Song of Bernadette," and several other Newmans, the one I specifically recall was "Rebecca." At that time, I was thinking of buying it, but the price wasn't cheap for me then---somewhere between $25-$50+ ---and I simply couldn't afford it. The length of the tape gave me the impression it was the whole score.

We've since heard that ABC trashed all the Selznick music elements other than the music/fx tracks---perhaps as late as the late 1970s-early1980s---so this reel-to-reel tape---if it is as suspected, would have been invaluable for restoration and release.

I wonder if an old collector still has the master or a copy he bought tucked away somewhere and simply doesn't realize it has value.

(Of course, I suppose it's possible I'm mis-remembering the length of the tape involving REBECCA and, in fact, the Cinema disc WAS mastered from edited versions of some of these mysterious tapes floating around so long ago.)

 
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