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New Mexico. Even tried it on my iPhone through the YouTube app and it's not playing sound for me there either. Weird.
One thing I did notice is that these may also be mislabeled. Is the first episode really starting with Anna already there at the palace? Because the first cue from the pilot on the Varese box set is "Anna Arrives" and the second to last one from the pilot "Anna Decides" (presumably about staying) yet this seems like it starts with her already there.
Yavar
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Hmm weird...might even be just my service provider or something.
Yavar
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Yeah, they could be mis-ordered. You'll have to use the credits on the episode and compare it to the IMDb episode page to see if it's right.
Odd to say the least, Yavar. You got a friend who'll let you bum around on his computer? Or a local library?
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I've now see the English language version of the Anna and the King pilot episode (the only episode to get a commercial release in the original English). I'll put out a complete score breakdown for it sooner or later. Suffice to say: there is unreleased music, even though out of all three episode scores represented on the Varese release, the pilot had the most music (six cues totaling roughly nine minutes). Most strikingly to me was the realization that the March of the Royal Children on the Varese is terribly truncated, ending in an awkward edit on album -- either a complete goof on their part, or perhaps the tapes they had were damaged and they had to improvise that edit. But if that's what happened they should have checked the composite audio track for the episode itself, because during that sequence I'm fairly certain it is completely music-only (and sounds great), with the full march playing out in full (at least twice the length of the Varese track, if I remember correctly). It's a pretty central cue in the score so surprising that Varese opted to shorten it to less than a minute in length.
Yavar
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I've been digging in deeper with Anna and the King now, and I can't believe I forgot to mention this before, when I already could have corrected some confusion in this thread:
The original English-language version of the pilot episode has Goldsmith correctly credited for "Music", with Lionel Newman credited for "Music Supervision" on the same credit card. I also watched the German DVD version and can confirm it has the same incorrect music credit as the German YouTube versions of the episode, clearly taken from this source. I will soon provide a complete score breakdown for this and other episodes... I've done about a third of the series so far, actually, because I find that even in German I'm enjoying it, and the other composers really contributed some excellent music as well. I'll be doing Justin's thing of noting down highlight cues that would be good to include on a potential release of music from this series. Of course I want the Goldsmith scores complete, but highlights from Shores and the other composers would also be great. There is excellent adaptation of Goldsmith's theme, as well as plenty of original material.
Justin, please correct the IMDb listings for the pilot episode as Shore is not credited on the English version, and Goldsmith correctly IS credited (not uncredited). If you email me at moradi (dot) yavar (at) gmail (dot) com I will send you a screenshot of the credit for confirmation.
More later...
Yavar
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Yavar is playing with Justin's thing! :-()
LOL.
Yes, I will fix the IMDb credit. I'll have to change Shores to "Credit only" and note in the Trivia page what the deal is.
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No, you should remove Shores's credit entirely. Because in the original English episode, he has no credit. It was clearly either an error of when the German versions were made, or when they were transferred to DVD. Are you going to prioritize a faulty foreign credit? At best it warrants a trivia mention, but even that seems a bit silly.
Yavar
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No, it's wonky, but it's the way IMDb works. I added an addendum, so when the change is taken, it'll read in the attribute box:
(credit only: German DVD)
If I don't do this or make sure it's spelled out in the Trivai page, somebody will see the credit in German copies and come back and change the page again.
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I'm also not sure why Jerry is credited for more episodes than he did on IMDb...for example he did not do "The Haunted Temple" -- I just watched it and all of the cues sound like Shores and not him, and Shores is credited at the end on the German DVD. I'm getting a feel for Shores's style, even when it's Goldsmith-inspired or based on a Goldsmith theme. For example I could tell while watching episode 3 on the German DVD set that the style no longer sounded like Shores, as several other episodes I'd watched had (I skipped ahead and then went back to episodes 2 & 3, because originally I was only going to go through the Goldsmith episodes with a fine-toothed comb). Arthur Morton was credited at the end and I thought to myself, "that makes sense" because the style was noticeably different.
Jon Burlingame confirmed to me that Jerry only worked on three episodes of the show. I'm going through each episode so thoroughly because I want to confirm this beyond any doubt (and I'll also do the same for his claim in the Film Music Society article on Shores that he also did only three episodes of the show...I'll keep an ear open for tracked music in particular).
Yavar
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IMDb reflects on-screen credits, not what was done.
If -- for example -- he is credited on an episode but there is no original score, the attribute would be changed to read: (credit only)
And, on the other side of the coin, if a composer did some score or a whole episode score, but was not credited, the attribute would read: (uncredited)
Now, not everybody pays attention and some people abuse it and do what they like, but that leaves it to other people to go back and change things.
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Yeah, but that episode on the German DVDs doesn't credit Goldsmith; it credits Shores. So it's strange that the Shores credit error on the German DVDs was maintained, but they apparently weren't accurately even used in terms of reflecting all the credits.
Yavar
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Sometimes, I can't say how often it occurs, foreign language version of TV series will lump a theme music composer in as the composer for the episode. I found this, for example, in German loads of "Cannon" on Youtube recently. It's very annoying!
Those Germans, always causing problems. ;-)
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Here's my first episode score breakdown, for the Anna and the King pilot (called "The Arrival" on the German DVDs I think.)
An asterisk denotes unreleased music. There is less unreleased music in this score than for any of the others. Note: for the unreleased music only I have also included the rough timestamps from the German DVD edition, in order for folks to more easily find it if watching a rip of that online. But I believe the German version has a PAL speedup or something of that kind, as the timings are off and (more noticeable on a later episode) pitch is also affected...
0:00-1:46 1. Anna Arrives (cue has a weird abrupt cut off on album)
1:46-2:33 2. Main Title
2:38-3:49 3. The Throne Room
6:48-8:56 4. March of the Royal Children*
(Album track only goes to around 7:34 before being abruptly and awkwardly cut off, remaining cue in show is excellent and relatively clean) [German version time stamp: 6:25-8:30]
9:26-9:36 5. Changed Mind* [8:57-9:09 in German version]
12:35-12:47 6. School Begins* [11:59-12:12 in German version]
15:37-15:43 7. Pleasant Mood* [14:54-14:58 in German version]
15:47-16:11 8. Goodbye* [14:59-15:22 in German version]
18:03-19:16 9. My Secret
(0:33-1:26 of the album cue on the Varese box -- basically the new bridge section of this theme written back when it became "Chinese Love Theme" from The Sand Pebbles -- was cut in episode.)
23:03-23:33 10. Better Ways
(First 30 seconds of album cue of same title)
23:37-23:49 11. After Dinner* [22:27-22:37 in German version]
24:47-25:30 This is a tracked in cue from Leigh Harline’s House of Bamboo. [23:34-24:15 in German version]
25:32-26:02 12. End Titles
The Varese box cue Anna Decides and 0:30-1:15 of Better Ways (a separate cue clearly, even on album) went unused in the episode. Presumably the former would have gone where the Harline House of Bamboo cue was used.
At some point I'll work out the track times and come up with the total amount of music (and unreleased music), unless someone else wants to beat me to it. But suffice it to say, though everyone knows I want every note of Goldsmith, there were no glaring highlight omissions from the Varese box when it comes to this episode score...with the HUGE exception of the full version of the March of the Royal Children! That one is inexplicable, really, especially since it's virtually clean in the episode itself. Everything else unreleased with the possible exception of the cue I called "Goodbye" is just a short 6-12 second "button" sort of thing, for act-outs or scene changes. Nothing important...but this will not be the case for Jerry's other two scores for the series (only two cues released from each), as well as the fine work I've discovered so far by Shores and Morton.
Yavar
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