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 Posted:   Feb 10, 2011 - 10:56 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

Just in case it hasn't been mentioned before, the 50th Anniversary Edition DVD of THE KING AND I includes the Goldsmith-scored pilot episode of the 1972 TV series ANNA AND THE KING.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2015 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Perhaps my other inquiry was missed since I posted it in a thread that didn't have Anna and the King in the title, so I figured I'd bump this old thread (which sadly got no replies) to ask:

Does anyone here own this set who can watch the bonus feature of the Anna and the King 70s TV pilot episode and say whether there are any unreleased Goldsmith cues in it beyond the six (totaling 9 minutes) included on the Varese Goldsmith at Fox box?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Somebody loaded all the episodes to the series (in another language) on youtube a few weeks, so I took the oppritunity to find the missing composer credits for the IMDb page for the series. I found some surprises.

Goldsmith scored most of the episodes. I thought he only did a few.

Richard Shores was no surprised, I already knew he did multiples, I just didn't know which.

Another surprise: Arthur Moton scored one episode. Robert Prince also scored one episode.


But perhaps the biggest surprise of them all is the pilot. Everywhere I go I keep reading the pilot is scored by Goldsmith. That's not what the on-screen credit reads. Richard Shores is credited for the pilot. In case anybody thinks I am mixing up episodes, the pilot was the only episode Gene Reynolds directed, so no, I am not mixing up the pilot.

So, what to make of this. I have my theories:

1. Goldsmith's score was rejected.
2. Shores' score was rejected but his name left in the credits.
3. What is deemed the "Pilot" is in fact not the pilot but just aired as the first episode and the actual pilot was aired as another episode.
4. There was a first pilot which did not air and the pilot that aired is a second pilot.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


It should be pretty easy to tell by ear which episode has the Goldsmith score that was released on the Varese box.

Jerry didn't always score the pilot...when we did the CD that has Jericho on it, I remember that Jerry scored the first regularly produced episode of the series (at which time he did the theme). The pilot was scored by Schifrin.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 6:08 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Is it already gone from YouTube? I looked for it to do complete score breakdowns, but no luck...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Yavar, here is the pilot; the other episodes will be linked to on the other side:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_8o5vcCz_o

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 6:56 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


The episode 1 youtube video pretty clearly has Goldsmith's music, even though Shore has the sole music credit.

I suspect the credits were messed up...either when they did the German translations (as seen on these youtube videos) or perhaps even when they were being posted on youtube.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Perhaps it was a mistake originally made when the episode was made, 'cause the writing credits are correct, the director is correct, and the cinematographer is correct, in that upload. Or maybe Shores indeed had a score replaced and his name didn't get removed (like has happened a couple times in other projects). You'd know better than I would if that's Jerry's music, so I take your word at it. Either way, I had to correct the IMDb entry and put Jerry as "uncredited", since to hte best of my knowledge the upload is correct. When the Shores credit is taken, I'll edit it again and put "(credit only)" for Shores.

If somebody can come up with an American airing of the pilot episode and and says what it reads, I'll fix it again as needed. That's the beauty of IMDb -- I can fix a mistake if one is made.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2017 - 2:16 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Yavar, here's something else you may want to do:

"87th Precinct"
Episode: "Step Forward"

Appears to be the only episode he scored for the series. Immediately opens with nice scoring (the episode is sped up though):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa_XBvwKWeo

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Sadly the Anna and the King uploads were already taken down before I could start working on a Complete Score Breakdown. Maybe the copyright claim from Pidax (whatever that is) portends a possible commercial release for the series?

I did however watch the 87th precinct episode, which had a nice score by Goldsmith and a great Morton Stevens theme. Looks like a decent show to boot, based on a popular book series yet somehow only lasting a single season. It won't work though due to its being sped up (everyone sounds kind of like a chipmunk, especially the ladies) -- that would throw off the numbers. I'd buy a score release if one was put out, though.

Interesting that this was actually Jerry's first time writing music for a Gena Rowlands project since this predates Lonely Are the Brave.. She's radiant and steals every scene she's in despite her character being a deaf mute (or perhaps because of it).

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Goldsmith's score and the music by the other composers could be a beautiful 2CD set! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Sadly the Anna and the King uploads were already taken down before I could start working on a Complete Score Breakdown. Maybe the copyright claim from Pidax (whatever that is) portends a possible commercial release for the series?

The complete ANNA AND THE KING series (13 episodes) is commercially available in Germany on the Pidax DVD label since 2013. But apparently Pidax released only the German dubbed version so that the two DVDs with the German title ANNA UND DER K├ľNIG VON SIAM do not contain the English language version.
Here the Amazon Germany website where you can order the double DVD:
https://www.amazon.de/Anna-K%C3%B6nig-von-Siam-Serien-Klassiker/dp/B00A304AYO

And the website of the Pidax DVD label:
http://www.pidax-film.de/Serien-Klassiker/Anna-und-der-Koenig-von-Siam::406.html

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2017 - 3:55 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Thanks for the info Stefan. A pity the original English language version has never been commercially released beyond the pilot.

Goldsmith's score and the music by the other composers could be a beautiful 2CD set! smile

Indeed! Although I don't know how much original scoring was actually done for the show, so it could even be 3 CDs...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

And the episodes are back on another channel -- for those who wanted to hear the scores (I know Yavar wanted to go through them):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M35jEUArpM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Kct6_2p4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auo-cn3SYGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9UWsoOgyDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5j-dH0EvWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhoUKphLWu0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqgyxkG66Xg
None for episode 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvHQWNWGgno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Yv8dpBW-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyXde6Qs6To
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9j_GLCIVsI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhJwAPBoDnw

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Thanks! Did you locate these again because of my request that you do the Shores scores? smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

No. Just for you to go over. I have too many titles I want to handle and other things to do; I'll be tied up for quite some time.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well I just went through all of those and none of them have sound, unfortunately.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Unless you have the video muted or some such thing, then it's for copyright reasons the audio is blocked in your region. They all have sound for me, here in the U.S.A.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'm in the US too, but definitely don't have sound. I tried other videos just to check.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Weird. If you have more than one browser, try another one.

I'm in Florida. What state are you audio-blocked in?

 
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