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Perhaps my other inquiry was missed since I posted it in a thread that didn't have Anna and the King in the title, so I figured I'd bump this old thread (which sadly got no replies) to ask: Does anyone here own this set who can watch the bonus feature of the Anna and the King 70s TV pilot episode and say whether there are any unreleased Goldsmith cues in it beyond the six (totaling 9 minutes) included on the Varese Goldsmith at Fox box? Yavar
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Somebody loaded all the episodes to the series (in another language) on youtube a few weeks, so I took the oppritunity to find the missing composer credits for the IMDb page for the series. I found some surprises. Goldsmith scored most of the episodes. I thought he only did a few. Richard Shores was no surprised, I already knew he did multiples, I just didn't know which. Another surprise: Arthur Moton scored one episode. Robert Prince also scored one episode. But perhaps the biggest surprise of them all is the pilot. Everywhere I go I keep reading the pilot is scored by Goldsmith. That's not what the on-screen credit reads. Richard Shores is credited for the pilot. In case anybody thinks I am mixing up episodes, the pilot was the only episode Gene Reynolds directed, so no, I am not mixing up the pilot. So, what to make of this. I have my theories: 1. Goldsmith's score was rejected. 2. Shores' score was rejected but his name left in the credits. 3. What is deemed the "Pilot" is in fact not the pilot but just aired as the first episode and the actual pilot was aired as another episode. 4. There was a first pilot which did not air and the pilot that aired is a second pilot.
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It should be pretty easy to tell by ear which episode has the Goldsmith score that was released on the Varese box. Jerry didn't always score the pilot...when we did the CD that has Jericho on it, I remember that Jerry scored the first regularly produced episode of the series (at which time he did the theme). The pilot was scored by Schifrin. Lukas
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Is it already gone from YouTube? I looked for it to do complete score breakdowns, but no luck... Yavar
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The episode 1 youtube video pretty clearly has Goldsmith's music, even though Shore has the sole music credit. I suspect the credits were messed up...either when they did the German translations (as seen on these youtube videos) or perhaps even when they were being posted on youtube. Lukas
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Perhaps it was a mistake originally made when the episode was made, 'cause the writing credits are correct, the director is correct, and the cinematographer is correct, in that upload. Or maybe Shores indeed had a score replaced and his name didn't get removed (like has happened a couple times in other projects). You'd know better than I would if that's Jerry's music, so I take your word at it. Either way, I had to correct the IMDb entry and put Jerry as "uncredited", since to hte best of my knowledge the upload is correct. When the Shores credit is taken, I'll edit it again and put "(credit only)" for Shores. If somebody can come up with an American airing of the pilot episode and and says what it reads, I'll fix it again as needed. That's the beauty of IMDb -- I can fix a mistake if one is made.
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Yavar, here's something else you may want to do: "87th Precinct" Episode: "Step Forward" Appears to be the only episode he scored for the series. Immediately opens with nice scoring (the episode is sped up though): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa_XBvwKWeo
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Sadly the Anna and the King uploads were already taken down before I could start working on a Complete Score Breakdown. Maybe the copyright claim from Pidax (whatever that is) portends a possible commercial release for the series? I did however watch the 87th precinct episode, which had a nice score by Goldsmith and a great Morton Stevens theme. Looks like a decent show to boot, based on a popular book series yet somehow only lasting a single season. It won't work though due to its being sped up (everyone sounds kind of like a chipmunk, especially the ladies) -- that would throw off the numbers. I'd buy a score release if one was put out, though. Interesting that this was actually Jerry's first time writing music for a Gena Rowlands project since this predates Lonely Are the Brave.. She's radiant and steals every scene she's in despite her character being a deaf mute (or perhaps because of it). Yavar
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Sadly the Anna and the King uploads were already taken down before I could start working on a Complete Score Breakdown. Maybe the copyright claim from Pidax (whatever that is) portends a possible commercial release for the series? The complete ANNA AND THE KING series (13 episodes) is commercially available in Germany on the Pidax DVD label since 2013. But apparently Pidax released only the German dubbed version so that the two DVDs with the German title ANNA UND DER KÖNIG VON SIAM do not contain the English language version. Here the Amazon Germany website where you can order the double DVD: https://www.amazon.de/Anna-K%C3%B6nig-von-Siam-Serien-Klassiker/dp/B00A304AYO And the website of the Pidax DVD label: http://www.pidax-film.de/Serien-Klassiker/Anna-und-der-Koenig-von-Siam::406.html
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Thanks for the info Stefan. A pity the original English language version has never been commercially released beyond the pilot. Goldsmith's score and the music by the other composers could be a beautiful 2CD set! Indeed! Although I don't know how much original scoring was actually done for the show, so it could even be 3 CDs... Yavar
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Thanks! Did you locate these again because of my request that you do the Shores scores? Yavar
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No. Just for you to go over. I have too many titles I want to handle and other things to do; I'll be tied up for quite some time.
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Well I just went through all of those and none of them have sound, unfortunately. Yavar
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Unless you have the video muted or some such thing, then it's for copyright reasons the audio is blocked in your region. They all have sound for me, here in the U.S.A.
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I'm in the US too, but definitely don't have sound. I tried other videos just to check. Yavar
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Weird. If you have more than one browser, try another one. I'm in Florida. What state are you audio-blocked in?
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