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 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Some Things WERE Infinitely Better Back in ‘Them’ Days Department:





Taut and tense direction courtesy of Joseph Sargent,



appropriately in-yer-face spiffy New Yawk script from Peter Stone,



rightly renowned score from David Shire,



and a top-notch



quartet of ace





performers (especially Hector Elizondo’s



terrific hair-trigger psycho)



still combine for one eminently-entertaining opus with every intelligent ‘I” dotted and twist tantalizingly
“T” topped off.



[ Of Historical Note Department:



In a 1974 Directors Guild of America issue of their magazine (then entitled Action), an article on shooting the
film had an in-depth interview and pix of director Sargent, one of which was absolutely spell-binding as it
included a three-shot of him discussing the final subway confrontation with Messrs. Matthau & Shaw.



What’s NOT evident is that Mr. Matthau originally waged a behind-the-scenes campaign to wear a more stylish
almost-Afro wig for the part he was playing (and the shot in the magazine includes him in said headgear ... which was kinda kool and not a half-bad idea). However, Mr. Sargent vetoed the suggestion because he felt neither the actor or
the character needed any further outward enhancement – and that Mr. Matthau’s expertise was more than capable of supplying the substance required.

Score a substantial bullseye for the Director, eh, wot? smilewink ]



smile As to that, this image of Mr. Matthau is so goldurned classic it oughta be in the Smithsonian

big grin

AND The Louvre!!! wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

This movie is a rare case of something that is a vast improvement on the original source material, the novel by John Godey, which suffered from not having a solid protagonist to act as the focal point. In the novel, the Garber character is black transit detective named Prescott who then does *not* figure in the manhunt to find the hijackers after they jump off the train. The ending is a rather anti-climactic moment in which another detective realizes the "Longman" character is taking too long to answer to the door and he just nabs him trying to get down the fire escape.

I crack up everytime Matthau's Garber first sees Inspector Daniels and is taken aback to see he's black and then tries to cover himself with, "Oh, ah, I thought you were a.....shorter guy," and Julius Harris then gives the cop next to him a priceless look as Matthau finally gets in with an, "I don't know what the hell I thought."

There is also no finer movie that shows the decay New York City fell into in the 1970s.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

"Go play with yer trains."

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Here's hoping a Blu-Ray version will surface one day so I can retire my ancient, non-anamorphic DVD copy. frown

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

One of the best thrillers...hell, one of the best films of the 70s!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 9:29 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

An authentic American classic.
I gave the remake 23 minutes, then I left. It offers Nothing.

This movie is a rare case of something that is a vast improvement on the original source material, the novel by John Godey, which suffered from not having a solid protagonist to act as the focal point. In the novel, the Garber character is black transit detective named Prescott who then does *not* figure in the manhunt to find the hijackers after they jump off the train. The ending is a rather anti-climactic moment in which another detective realizes the "Longman" character is taking too long to answer to the door and he just nabs him trying to get down the fire escape.

I crack up everytime Matthau's Garber first sees Inspector Daniels and is taken aback to see he's black and then tries to cover himself with, "Oh, ah, I thought you were a.....shorter guy," and Julius Harris then gives the cop next to him a priceless look as Matthau finally gets in with an, "I don't know what the hell I thought."

There is also no finer movie that shows the decay New York City fell into in the 1970s.


Nice observations, I'm glad I never read the book. The script is excellent.

Any film with Walter Matthau in the seventies is a must-own. Joseph Sargent remains a vastly under-rated director and I attribute much of the excellence of the film to him.

I also laughed at the dry humor, even though it was used to show the lack of sophistication in Matthau's character. After they hear a toilet flush and the guy comes to the door, Matthau says "I hope he washed his hands before he came to the door." At the start of the film, an impatient Matthau makes fun of the Japanese to whom he must give a guided a tour of the facility only to find out, as they leave, that they know English and understood every word he said. You gotta give Matthau credit for not being afraid to play this character.

The film also shows the NYC that I grew up in, and sometimes I watch it just for the personal nostalgia of it.


Richard

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

I've always wanted to see this, as my dad has sung its praises for years. I saw the remake last year and thought it was terrific (the first Tony Scott movie I've really liked since the 1980s), so I'm curious to go back and check out the original now.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 10:19 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

"This way, dummies, over here, dummies."

This is one of my very, very, very favorite movies. I literally grew up with it. It was on at least once a year on my local KPTV channel 12, and from about age 10 to 20, I watched it every year and loved it more with each delicious viewing. THEN...when it came to laserdisc, not only did I get to see it widescreen (WOW) and uncut, but to hear all that outrageous New Yawk foul-mouthed spewing...oh it just got better and better.

Wonderful performances from all...razor sharp dialogue...a thrilling and iconic '70s score...more quotable lines than most movies can hope to provide...one of the great bah-da-boom endings of all time. It's just perfect. There isn't a single wasted moment, and almost every performance even from extras or one-sceners are distinct and memorable and frequently hilarious (e.g. Doris Roberts and her "sure votes" one-liner).

I never bothered with the remakes. What would the point of that be?

"Beats the shit outta me, Phil."

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2011 - 12:46 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Agree with everyone, a crackerjack picture with an aces cast. And that score - well, everything about the film works. I endured the remake just to see how bad it could get - Mr. Travolta's performance immediately entered my pantheon of horrendous acting jobs. The script was awful, the direction worse and it just proved how brilliant the character actors in the 70s were and how no one has come along to take their place.

I, too, hope for a Blu-Ray or at least a showing on MGM-HD.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2011 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

Love it, love it, love it. Seen it a million times, and never get tired of it. The cast is superb from the leads to the character actors. Love that 70s New York vibe. Favorite line: "Yesterday we had a bomb scare... but it turned out to be a cantaloupe" (Jerry Stiller).

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2011 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

I found the remake remarkably inept, on every conceivable level.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2011 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

Agree with everyone, a crackerjack picture with an aces cast. And that score - well, everything about the film works. I endured the remake just to see how bad it could get - Mr. Travolta's performance immediately entered my pantheon of horrendous acting jobs. The script was awful, the direction worse and it just proved how brilliant the character actors in the 70s were and how no one has come along to take their place.

Why in the world ANYONE would subject themselves to an inferior remake,
knowing full well that the original is a masterpiece (especially this film)
is beyond me. Were you bored? smile A buddy of mine tried to talk me into
seeing the remake, since he too, loves the original. I adamantly refused!
I called him a "traitor to the 70's" for doing so, and told him that the ghost of
Walter Matthau was going to take his revenge on him by messing up his
immaculate apartment in typical Oscar Madison fashion. big grin

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2011 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



WHO’S MOVING?” big grin (4:54 in) big grin Department:



“You’re a sick man, Ricco.” wink



 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2011 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

I saw this film for the first time a couple years ago and it was love at first sight! I enjoy everything about it, from the score to the deadpan humor to the cast. At the time, I couldn't stop talking to my friends about it and I believe my operative word was "badass."

I found the remake to be quite forgettable but I did read one review in which the reviewer wished Denzel and Travolta had switched places. It probably wouldn't have made a difference but it's food for thought.

"How can you run a goddamn railroad without swearing?!?!" smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2011 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I suffered through one bad remake (the late 90s TV movie, which starred a guy who wasn't through starring in bad remakes/reimaginings). No way was I going to sit through a second one!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2011 - 1:35 AM   
 By:   groovemeister   (Member)

Here's a good analysis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOb1O-RZ1ok

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2011 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Appreciate the link, Groove; actually, we got far more entertainment outta this bloke's remarks
than the remake ever woulda elicited (aside from 2-plus non-refundable hours off our time-life
allotment plan). wink



Nah, where this tricky train tale is concerned, we cite the irrefutable Immortal phrase:



There Can Be Only One. No Green Lights - Full Stop. smilewinkbig grin

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2011 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

It's one for gritty gripes and gum-chewing pros, made memorable for the hard talk in the behind-the-scene scenes. Arguably Matthau's best.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2011 - 9:31 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Funny, I was listening to the podcast of ScoreNotes.com's interview with David Shire, who said that he wasn't even approached to score the remake (which he never bothered to see), and said that Harry Gregson-Williams' score was "buried" and barely audible throughout the film.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2016 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Ed C   (Member)

Here's my analysis post on this "hidden gem". 12-tone blaxploitation music never got better than this!

http://cuebycue.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-taking-of-pelham-one-two-three.html

 
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