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 Posted:   Dec 5, 2010 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

Mike, thanks for taking the time to come up with those detailed examples! I will keep an ear out for them! Although I pay attention to instrumentation, I never really did comparisons during different periods of Williams' writing so far.

But just when I was typing the last sentence, "Fireplace Escape" came up, and the finale of that track reminded me a lot of JURASSIC PARK - those frenzied woodwinds on top of a repeated pattern. So, I'm slowly starting to pick up more instances where Desplat carries over a flavour of Williams' music without ever aping him - the whole score is still very much Desplat.

Daniel, thanks for your "Order of the Phoenix" review! I don't own that soundtrack, but I appreciate your positive comments, as I found the wave of negativity that Hooper's work received back in its day a bit unfair. I think all of the composers served the series quite well with their particular contributions, even if I don't consider all of them perfect listens away from the film. I think the worst would have been if we had gotten a series of laboured Williams pastiches.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2010 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)


But just when I was typing the last sentence, "Fireplace Escape" came up, and the finale of that track reminded me a lot of JURASSIC PARK - those frenzied woodwinds on top of a repeated pattern. So, I'm slowly starting to pick up more instances where Desplat carries over a flavour of Williams' music without ever aping him - the whole score is still very much Desplat.



I think this expresses absolutely what Desplat accomplishes, at the same time carrying over a perfume of Williams' music and being nevertheless a fresh voice on his own.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2010 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

A pity it's not widely appreciated, because people wish so hard for all the thematic material to define the world of Harry Potter.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2010 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

I think Desplats time is about to come,
when Williams is gone (hopefully in many years from now) Desplat will be one of the few composers scoring that way in mainstream hollywood productions.
I really think he is becoming something like Williams' heir, I firstly thought the same about Giacchino, but here we have to much of sequencers and midi and that sort of scoring.
So I think for now I am thinking like 2/3 Desplats is filling the gap Williams' will leave and 1/3 Giacchino - which is of course very subjective and just from my very narrowed perspection

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2010 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

Yes, hard to say how things will develop, both in terms of individual careers and overall trends in film scoring. But I think these composers and a few others (Gabriel Yared and Christopher Young being recent personal favourites) are reason enough to leave the "whither film music?" depression behind that many of us had a few years ago when it looked like all the future would hold would be the Media Ventures/Remote Control school of scoring.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2010 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

ah, what is it you would recommend from Young and from Yared?
I've only little knowledge of both composers output, english patient and city of angels I am familiar with, but beyond that... no idea

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2010 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

Well, my sample size is still small in both cases, but I found Young's score for CREATION absolutely addictive in its beauty (http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=63434&forumID=1&archive=0). As for Yared, I love THE LIVES OF OTHERS for a small, almost chamber-music like approach (although I'm less happy with the album, because I always have to program around the East German pop songs). THE ENGLISH PATIENT and, more recently, AMELIA, I love for their very rich, melodic, diverse (but never bombastic) character. It would be awesome if there was finally a chance to hear his rejected score for TROY, too.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2010 - 7:00 PM   
 By:   MClayton   (Member)

I'm going to see this film today, I've heard great things. I'm hoping to see it in the big old IMAX screen. Anyone else seen it on IMAX?

Got this little goodie in the mail today, an early Christmas gift to me!

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How'd you get that? I wish I received a gift like that...

I agree with the reviews. The movie has gorgeous visuals, and since it's more faithful to the novel there's genuine character development. People who say it's boring clearly don't understand how choppy and somewhat rushed the past few movies were. And Desplat's score beautifully accompanied the visuals.

I do have quibbles about the CD presentation. I wished the film version of "Fireplaces Escape" was fully intact in the CD (there's a wonderful "Dementors Converge" homage when Harry closes the elevator doors and casts his Patronus in the film). But those are just little things, the movie and score are wonderful.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2010 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Daniel Champion   (Member)

I've just added my Nicholas Hooper interview to the blog. It was conducted way back when The Order of the Phoenix was released. Have fun reading! My postscript to my Desplat review will be up in a couple days, want to get it right without jumping to any swift conclusions!

http://danielthomaschampion.blogspot.com/

Oh yeah, I agree with Marlene, The digital presentation of this film was flawless. Good to hear Desplat's score accompanying the film in lossless audio too - a delight that 35mm cannot offer.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2010 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   random guy   (Member)

hey there was a neat doc. on Bio about the music and sound of the Potter franchise. quite fascinating. wish it was longer but fun to see all the composers interviewed. never knew Harry had a theme, apparently he does and Williams points it out. doesn't really fit the character at all

the clips of Hooper and Doyle are interesting. Doyle's score bores me to tears but it was fun seeing him walking around the set, he seems to have quite an ego and Hooper is so soft spoken like Williams. recommend it if you haven't seen it.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2011 - 10:05 PM   
 By:   random guy   (Member)

"Destroying The Locket" is a mesmerizing piece of music. stunning. reminds me of Goldenthal's "Race to Old New York" a wee bit

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2014 - 3:08 AM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

after revisiting the scores for both parts, I felt the last chapter, 7.2, did not really prove as a longliving scores, did it?
What do you think?

I think that 7.1 had an interesting start with a lot of interesting thematic threads,
and then 7.2 somehow did not use some of them,
like the fantastic death eater in the beginning of 7.1., this is not coming back somewhere.
I miss some thematic integrity, a lot of music without thematic references, though there are
plenty of opportunities.

A lot of people liked that RC-inspired music when in Hogwards everyhting goes down,
I did not so much, it felt like a stranger part of the score not connecting to what did come before.

Also the finale, I felt a bit disappointed about it.
So for me it felt like a missed opportunity, part 7.2

Having said that, I admire Desplat's music very very much, though I exeperience that I tend to not have the motivation to go back to it as much as I have that with other music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2018 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

I simply love "Obliviate" - what a wonderful piece of music, conveying the sadness, the longing and the hope. Perfect Desplat!

 
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