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 Posted:   Aug 5, 2010 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   Hedji   (Member)

Inspired by an idea by Ka-razyfilmscorefan, I thought we could have some fun creating playlists for LP album presentations that never were. Often times, the argument for C&C is defended by saying "We can always make our own 'album edits' in iTunes if we want to". So, I'm thinking this might be an opportunity to share some playlists that you might have created by cherry-picking your favorite cues from your favorite C&C release. I remember when Goonies was released, there were many people suggesting a 40 minute program might work better. Heck, we might even be able to give Thor some therapeutic ideas to make his listening experiences better.

(Disclaimer: I happen to be on the side of supporting C&C releases. I think we should have the complete score as recorded, but I enjoy using technology to create authentic and pleasing listening experiences also.)



As an example, here's Ka-razyfilmscorefan's original post, which was his own imaginary LP presentation for PREDATOR:





And, since I do this type of thing sometimes, I tried to compile a would-be LP tracklist for those of us who aren't happy with the 70+ minute representation. There's far too much stuff to warrant such a brief release in my opinion (and so much of it is left off of a 40+ minute representation that it's almost an exercise in futility) but I did my best with the time constraints. I tried to think of the cues that come to mind when the word PREDATOR is floating around in between my ears. I also tried to think of the various themes and how to represent them. Hopefully it's to someone's liking.

Side A (Roughly 20.5 minutes)

1. Main Title
2. Payback Time
3. The Waiting
4. The Girl's Escape
5. Something Else
6. We're All Gonna Die

Side B (Roughly 21.25 minutes)

1. Battle Plans
2. Hand to Hand Combat
3. Predator's Big Finish
4. End Credits (The Rescue)






I think it's kinda neat that he programmed in a side 1/side 2 break, as though there were an actual LP release of Predator.

So, anyone have a playlist they're proud of? A presentation that is "just right"?

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2010 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Just what I was looking for!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2010 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I'm quite flattered that such an ostensibly silly idea of mine actually stayed with someone. As soon as I saw this thread, I wondered if it could be in reference to my PREDATOR list. To be honest, I've never listened to it like that, but I'll have to... Especially since it's spawned its own thread! I've never come up with others, but I'll have to think of something now that this exists...

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2010 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Just what I was looking for!

Actually it doesn't really work with the Intrada version.

I'll stick with the Intrada highlights for now.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2010 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   MerM   (Member)

I made one for Aliens some time back:

1) Main Title
2) Combat Drop
3) Futile Escape
4) Ripley's Rescue
5) Going After Newt
6) Bishop's Countdown
7) Queen To Bishop
8) Resolution and Hyperspace

Screw suspense, I want metal clanks! big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2010 - 7:53 PM   
 By:   doc365a   (Member)

Black Sunday Album Arrangement
Runtime 39.35
Side 1
1. Theme From Black Sunday
2. Commando Raid
3. The Last Night
4. Nurse Dahlia
5. Moshevsky's Dead
6. Miami

Side 2.
1. Preparations
2. Flight Check
3. Farley's Dead
4. Aerial Battle
5. The Stadium
6. Blimp Explosion And End Title

How to make it:
Side 1
Track 1 is The End, Alternate
Track 2 combines Beirut, Commandos Arrive, Commando Raid, and the first 27 seconds of It Was Good - Dahilia Arrives - The Unloading
Track 6 is the first 1:30 of 11 - Miami - Dahilia's Call

Side 2
Track 2 is The Flight Check combined with 16 - Airborn - Bomb Passes Stadium
Track 4 is Underway combined with Air Chase Pt. 1 and the first 3:00 of Air Chase Pt. 2
Track 5 is Air Chase Pt. 3 from the 3:00 mark until and edit/fade out at 6:45; overlap this with The Take Off to end the track.
Track 6 is The Detonation combined with The End (Original Version)
Side 2 grabs and doesn't let go until the end credits roll!

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2010 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   MerM   (Member)

Black Sunday Album Arrangement
Runtime 39.35
Side 1
1. Theme From Black Sunday
2. Commando Raid
3. The Last Night
4. Nurse Dahlia
5. Moshevsky's Dead
6. Miami

Side 2.
1. Preparations
2. Flight Check
3. Farley's Dead
4. Aerial Battle
5. The Stadium
6. Blimp Explosion And End Title

How to make it:
Side 1
Track 1 is The End, Alternate
Track 2 combines Beirut, Commandos Arrive, Commando Raid, and the first 27 seconds of It Was Good - Dahilia Arrives - The Unloading
Track 6 is the first 1:30 of 11 - Miami - Dahilia's Call

Side 2
Track 2 is The Flight Check combined with 16 - Airborn - Bomb Passes Stadium
Track 4 is Underway combined with Air Chase Pt. 1 and the first 3:00 of Air Chase Pt. 2
Track 5 is Air Chase Pt. 3 from the 3:00 mark until and edit/fade out at 6:45; overlap this with The Take Off to end the track.
Track 6 is The Detonation combined with The End (Original Version)
Side 2 grabs and doesn't let go until the end credits roll!


O_O

Oh, that should be fun to assemble!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2010 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   doc365a   (Member)

It's pretty easy, actually. I use an old version of Magix Audio Cleaning Lab and assembled this in less than an hour...had to make up my mind about what could stay and what had to go. The most difficult edit is what would be tracks 4 and 5 on "Side 2". I searched for awhile to find a good downbeat to tack onto the end of track 4; most people would probably be content to just have Aerial Battle / The Stadium play straight through without a break as 2 tracks, or just let them go as a single track as they do on the FSM CD. I was just bound and determined that each "side" had to have 6 tracks!

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2010 - 8:57 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

WAIT JUST A SECOND!

there is already a thread on this "Resequencing cd's
there you will find my stellar track listings
smile
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=68106&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2010 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Heck, we might even be able to give Thor some therapeutic ideas to make his listening experiences better.

I don't think so. It's not something I find particularly rewarding, nor am I really qualified to do so. The closest I've been is to create iTunes playlists of various themes and songs (just stuff that I like....they don't really work as an album experience, of course). But to each their own, as they say.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I don't think so. It's not something I find particularly rewarding, nor am I really qualified to do so.

Thor, I'm not trying to start a debate, but I always read statements from you along the lines that "we aren't qualified to make album presentations" and so forth. What makes the record producers so qualified and not us? You can't teach creativity. Either you've got it or you don't. I'm not saying that I'm a master at this or that I should be doing it for a living, but it's kind of odd. It's like saying you shouldn't draw unless you're a professional artist.

Anyway, onto the reason I resurrected this topic...

I listened to Inner Space again fairly recently, remembering that the chronological presentation isn't quite 100% as exciting as it seems in film. Considering various comments I've read on the board, it seems to be a somewhat common opinion. I love it, but it's lacking something. Therefore, I created a fake LP presentation. Now, before you read this keep in mind that when I use a title like "The Charge" I don't merely mean just that half of the cue. I'm referring to "State of the Art/The Charge" but it's a funky title to work with and Jerry didn't really do that in his track lists so I abbreviated titles like that.

Side A (roughly 21 minutes)

1. Main Title
2. The Charge
3. Take Him Home
4. Optical Nerves
5. The Cowboy
6. Gas Attack

Side B (roughly 21 minutes again)

1. Out of the Pod
2. The Womb
3. Transformed
4. Stop the Car
5. Disengage

Hope it works for someone!

As a side note, I make these lists for fun but about 99.9% of the time I listen to the CD presentation.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

I don't think so. It's not something I find particularly rewarding, nor am I really qualified to do so.

Thor, I'm not trying to start a debate, but I always read statements from you along the lines that "we aren't qualified to make album presentations" and so forth. What makes the record producers so qualified and not us?


 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Oh, so because they've got the job then they're more inclined to do it than anyone else? Not a slam, but I'm sure that the mainstream music industry is heavily populated by people who have no business producing anything for human ears.

I repeat, you can't teach creativity.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

And again... I repeat!



Or does this help illustrate the point!



Please... let it die!

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)



SIDE ONE

1. Main Title / Troubled Airliner
2. A Lifeboat in the Fog
3. Saigasaki Harbor
4. Hiko's Misunderstanding
5. Tea With the Tanakas
6. The Farmhouse
7. Soon With Your Hand in Mine


SIDE TWO

1. Arrival in Kyoto
2. Geisha House
3. Kiyomitsu Temple
4. Pagoda Chase
5. End Title

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Escapade in Japan-57- such a pretty cover, i once had that LP a long time ago, i sold it to an artist for about $20.00, memories.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

eek

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I repeat...! Just kidding.

We shall agree to disagree... or whatever we're doing.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thor, I'm not trying to start a debate, but I always read statements from you along the lines that "we aren't qualified to make album presentations" and so forth. What makes the record producers so qualified and not us? You can't teach creativity. Either you've got it or you don't. I'm not saying that I'm a master at this or that I should be doing it for a living, but it's kind of odd. It's like saying you shouldn't draw unless you're a professional artist.

No, it's more like: Anyone can draw, but that doesn't necessarily make you an artist. And if I'm going to hang artwork on my wall, I would prefer to have actual art, not some doodles made by Joe Schmoe on his napkin.

Here's the FAQ reply I've made:

http://www.celluloidtunes.net/non-website/faq.jpg

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

^ Ka-razyfilmscorefan - That's what I was talking about!

-Erik-

 
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