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 Posted:   May 18, 2010 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

It's too bad that Sea Hawk (the superior Flynn film in my opinion, and superior Korngold score) did not survive in as good condition and wasn't given as much of a restoration. Then again, it's too bad that it wasn't in color as it was originally planned to be before they decided to use stock B & W footage for some of the sea stuff.

I agree, Robin Hood is the best looking 72 year old film I've ever seen.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2010 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I haven't seen the film yet, but I recently bought the Varese re-recording on CD via ebay for 80 cents, and I really dig it.

What? Josh Mitchell NEVER listens to re-recordings!

Somebody alert the media! big grin

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2010 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

You might try to pick up the 'Sursum Corda' Korngold's concert work on which a LOT of the score is based. There 's a great recording on Chandos and another on Varese.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2010 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

I haven't seen the film yet, but I recently bought the Varese re-recording on CD via ebay for 80 cents, and I really dig it.

What? Josh Mitchell NEVER listens to re-recordings!

Somebody alert the media! big grin


I also recently got the "companion disc" featuring Kojian's re-recording of SEA HAWK. eek

Headlining our 11 o'clock news report tonight, it's official: Hell hath frozen over.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2010 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

It's too bad that Sea Hawk (the superior Flynn film in my opinion, and superior Korngold score) did not survive in as good condition and wasn't given as much of a restoration. Then again, it's too bad that it wasn't in color as it was originally planned to be before they decided to use stock B & W footage for some of the sea stuff

We're lucky the film is complete. It was reissued first at 122 minutes and then at 108 minutes. When Key Video first released the film on VHS and Beta, they used the 108 minute Dominant Pictures Print. Wow, what an uproar! That sent UA to the BFI where they unearthed the uncut print.

The 16mm syndication prints were of the 122 minute print, the most serious omission in which was the second half of the coach scene after Flynn lands at Dover and is reunited with Brenda Marshall. The wartime portion of the speech by Flora Robson is also gone.

The syndication prints of CAPTAIN BLOOD are all of the 99 minute reissue and are missing all of Frank McGlynn Sr.'s scenes as the scripture-quoting pirate. A blessing in my humble opinion.

I mention these prints because for thirty years they were all we had to see of these films until the home video revolution.

But ROBIN HOOD is leagues above them all and well-deserves all that the folks at Warners have put into it. It's a film that will continue to stand the test of time for many decades to come, long after Mr. Crowe and crowd's revisitation have long been forgotten. (Again, IMHO!)

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2010 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

I haven't seen the film yet, but I recently bought the Varese re-recording on CD via ebay for 80 cents, and I really dig it.

What? Josh Mitchell NEVER listens to re-recordings!

Somebody alert the media! big grin


I also recently got the "companion disc" featuring Kojian's re-recording of SEA HAWK. eek

Headlining our 11 o'clock news report tonight, it's official: Hell hath frozen over.


Josh I'm sure you got them for a great price, but you really need Marco Polo/Naxos Robin Hood and Sea Hawk

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2010 - 8:25 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I would say that 'Adventures of Robin Hood' and 'Sea Hawk' are actually equals in terms of cinematic excellence as well as musical genius.

And remember, 'The Sea Hawk' was an almost totally original free-flowing score (apart from a waltz theme he recycled for the Jungle Marches) whereas nearly 50% of the RH score was already thematically conceived, sometimes note for note, in the Sursum Corda.

'Captain Blood' has its charm too, and with its 'Dr. Caligari' style of stylised set design, was a silent/talkie transition movie and very seminal for its day.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2010 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I recieved my silver CD yesterday. Sounds just great, thanks guys for helping me avoid the CDR naughtyness!!!

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2010 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

It's too bad that Sea Hawk (the superior Flynn film in my opinion, and superior Korngold score) did not survive in as good condition and wasn't given as much of a restoration. Then again, it's too bad that it wasn't in color as it was originally planned to be before they decided to use stock B & W footage for some of the sea stuff.

I agree, Robin Hood is the best looking 72 year old film I've ever seen.

Yavar


I used to think that, but now I can't imagine it in anything other than b/w. I saw The Sea Hawk again last weekend, it so works. That first taking of the ship at the start, the dual at the end! Is it better than Robin Hood? who cares, I have & enjoy both of them. I bought the Errol Flynn Box at Christmas, you could buy it in the UK for the indecently cheap price of £10! Not any more, I think it's been deleted.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 4:00 AM   
 By:   Uhtred   (Member)

Hope someone can help answer this. The Marco Polo pressed CD was released in 2003. Does anyone know when it was replaced by the Naxos CDR? many thanks.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2014 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

Need some help, please ... I contacted a seller on Amazon Marketplace to ask if the new copy he's selling is a pressed CD or the CD-R variant. He answered he can't tell because his copy is still sealed and there's no outer indication/note that it's a CD-R. He has received his copy in 2007.

What do you think? Pressed or CD-R? @ the people who own the CD-R variant: Is there any outer note/remark where it says "CD-R"? Thanks, guys!

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2014 - 4:04 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

*bump* Anyone?

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2014 - 4:51 AM   
 By:   Uhtred   (Member)

Hi Orbital. My Naxos copy has a very small box next to the barcode that says Compact Disc, Digital Audio, CD R Format. The writing that says CD R format is so small, you can hardly read it! To be honest, the rest of my copy looks so cheap compared to my other Naxos discs, that I wonder if my copy is legit at all.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2014 - 5:30 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

Thanks a lot, Uhtred! Much appreciated.

 
 
 Posted:   May 5, 2015 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

FWIW for those who missed it and want a pressed CD, Naxos seems to be rereleasing it on their main label, finally.

 
 Posted:   May 5, 2015 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   Brandon Brown   (Member)

FWIW for those who missed it and want a pressed CD, Naxos seems to be rereleasing it on their main label, finally.

I bought the CD-R from Amazon back in 2008 or 2009. It's littered with skips. Sometimes I wonder if my copy is legit.

Anyway, it's nice that Naxos will be rereleasing this. The Stromberg/Morgan recording is superb. I love this score and the film.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2015 - 12:38 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I consider the Varese Utah/Kojian recordings of The Sea Hawk and The Adventures of Robin Hood as two of the very finest film score re-recordings ever. The Sea Hawk is particularly fine.
Both were produced by George Korngold.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2015 - 5:05 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

I consider the Varese Utah/Kojian recordings of The Sea Hawk and The Adventures of Robin Hood as two of the very finest film score re-recordings ever. The Sea Hawk is particularly fine.
Both were produced by George Korngold.


I'd add the Star Wars-album they did. Perhaps not always to faithful to the original recording, but a very, very enjoyable album.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2015 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I'd add the Star Wars-album they did. Perhaps not always to faithful to the original recording, but a very, very enjoyable album.

That's one of the main reasons why I like it. They weren't afraid to do a very different take on familiar material.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2015 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I think I have the Varese one, and it really is very good, an excellent recording, and an excellent performance, not all modernized and sweetened up. Yes, I also have the blu ray, and the movie itself remains terrifically entertaining, a really good movie all around.

 
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