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This Rubini interview was found on Manhunter.net:
“That's the type of thing that has made him the epitome of the new approach to film. He played me cuts and said, 'That's what I want.' That was the job. He almost pre-scores his movies. He likes to have the music on the set while he films. I did the theme for Manhunter last August [1985]. I had never seen the film and he picked that music.”
“It makes me crazy. He took the theme and cut it up in little pieces, so that certain parts of it would hit certain actions on the screen. In the final analysis, he wanted me to take the piece of music I had originally done and add parts to it, so he could use the original track as a bed and bring up these other parts in different scenes to make it play the way he liked it. He really fell in love with the original [Graham's] theme. He got it in his mind so deeply that he couldn't get it out. That's the problem with pre-scoring and having directors and producers put temp [temporary] tracks in the picture. This plus is that if you send a producer a piece of music that he loves and he throws it in his picture, then he can't get away from it, so you're pre-sold for the job. The negative of it is that then you're stuck with having to do that music all the time!”
Excerpted from an original article by Jeff Burger, Keyboard Magazine, 1986.
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Why aren't people rude in Rozsa box thread? Because it's a fine piece of art.
No, because people who doesn't like or doesn't know much about Rozsa stay out of the discussion. Like you should have done in this thread.
Do you want me to come and fuck up your Rozsa threads? Just ask, and I'll be there.
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Sorry! Yes, it's Rubini in the interview.
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I wonder if the CD will contain the bits of Kitaro music Mann or Rubini slipped into the movie?
The Kitaro and Klaus Schulze tracks aren't included, sad to say
... which is, for me the biggest let-down with this release.
Both tracks are long (three tracks is you count both "Parts" of the Kitaro piece), but there would have been plenty of room on the disc (even with the "Jogger" bonus too).
A real missed opportunity.
-John
PS for the record, the *other* crime with this release is the equal billing given to Michel Rubini and The Reds. Crazy.
I know for an absolute fact that the former's contribution was dwarfed by that of The Reds. Sure, Rubini's piece is an essential piece (and one my own favourites) - but ultimately he just (eventually..) did what Mann asked - and produced an obvious "re-version" of Comfortably Numb (which has already been referenced on this rather acidic thread, I know - but is SO obvious / blatant it simply must be referred to again!)
So for me, I find it outright odd that Rubini is given so much "air-time" (sadly, though I have yet to receive my release [I'm in the UK] - I gather that the piece I tracked down and included on my manhunter.net site (from an old Keyboard magazine interview with Rubini) - was referenced on the liner notes. So ironically I feel somewhat to blame for this disparity between Rubini and The Reds! - D'oh..)
ULTIMATELY though, I am of course still *delighted* to see this release finally see light of day on CD. Credit to Intrada for that, no question.
-John.
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This Rubini interview was found on Manhunter.net:
“That's the type of thing that has made him the epitome of the new approach to film. He played me cuts and said, 'That's what I want.' That was the job. He almost pre-scores his movies. He likes to have the music on the set while he films. I did the theme for Manhunter last August [1985]. I had never seen the film and he picked that music.”
“It makes me crazy. He took the theme and cut it up in little pieces, so that certain parts of it would hit certain actions on the screen. In the final analysis, he wanted me to take the piece of music I had originally done and add parts to it, so he could use the original track as a bed and bring up these other parts in different scenes to make it play the way he liked it. He really fell in love with the original [Graham's] theme. He got it in his mind so deeply that he couldn't get it out. That's the problem with pre-scoring and having directors and producers put temp [temporary] tracks in the picture. This plus is that if you send a producer a piece of music that he loves and he throws it in his picture, then he can't get away from it, so you're pre-sold for the job. The negative of it is that then you're stuck with having to do that music all the time!”
Excerpted from an original article by Jeff Burger, Keyboard Magazine, 1986.
Thanks for taking the time to reference this from my site, Michael.
If anyone is still interested, I think I have the actual magazine article here somewhere in my own Manhunter "Vault" - I think I included the whole thing on the site (will check...) but happy to re-scan if the interest is there.
Whilst I have no "proof", one thing I *do* have on VERY good authority is that Mann also approached The Reds with the idea of producing a piece that was (shall we say...) "Inspired" by Floyd's "Comfortably Numb".
They reluctantly complied and put something together for MM - at which point he then asked them to start tweaking / fiddling with it - in a manner which echoes Rubini's quotes / comments in the Keyboard article...
The key difference (from what I can gather) is that there came a point where The Reds said "No more" (or words to that effect) - at which point I assume MM picked up the phone and got Rubini involved.
The rest, as they say - is history...
-John.
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Fascinating interview excerpt (with Rubini?), many thanks.
I really dislike the Mann approach to score.
Interesting that Rubini only only did two big Hollywood films, both for the known kings of pre-existing and temp track music (Mann and Tony Scott). A shame I think that he didn't do a big original score.
I think that this is a fair comment - as for all the criticism levelled in the direction of Mr. Rubini, the guy clearly has a talent. As far as I know he is no longer an active composer though - at any level.. - a shame.
The Reds on the other hand..... *very* much ALIVE AND KICKING!
See here:
http://www.theredsmusic.com/
*note: Just about all of their "non-Manhunter" music is non-instrumental (i.e. they are a band!) - but still well worth checking out IMHO.
John.
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