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 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I was watching EVENT HORIZOn again last night. I know it has many daft points (and rips off a lot of movie ideas) but it always really worked for me. It's got a special sense of real nasty dread about it.. not just some kinda psycho nutter film that seems so common in the horror field.
Anyway..once again i was bowled over by the score from my greatly missed favourite composer Michael Kamen. Its just terrific stuff with quiet creepy moments that suddenly blast into exciting action cues. Maybe i was just so absorbed in the film and Michael's work but i really didn't notice the ORBITAL influence in the movie. Is it actually there?I'd been listening to the soundtrack album just before it again and that pounding music by them, surfaces quite a bit through it. I really didn't notice it in the film this time.
It was also weird that the opening credits only mentioned Michael kamen for the score and not ORBITAL.
Seeing the film again only makes me realise what a missed oportunity for Kamen fans, the current Cd release is. The exciting music from just about the whole last half hour of the film isn't on the cd. I remember reading in the past that quite a few times soundtrack releases were hurried out before the score would be even finished. Michael's stuff seemed to get hit by this curse a few times (Robin Hood, 3 Musketeers ect.)
This score needs a re-release in a better version. Any Michael Kamen releases would be greatly welcome. As has been said many times on this forum, he seems to be neglected in the release market since his death. EVENT HORIZON is good horror soundtrack cd as it curently stands but would be so much better if 'fleshed 'out a bit.
As i don't post that much i just though i'd say how much pleasure this forum gives me. Its great reading some of the discussions that go on here and i've found a lot of great music through comments from people. Being a soundtrack fan can be a bit of a 'social outcast' hobby (certainly amongst my mates!) so its always great to read other enthusiasts.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I really liked this film, and think it is vastly underrated.

As for the score, my favourite bits are the ones he did with Orbital, with those relentless, throbbing electronica beats. The rest of the score - at least most of it - is a bit too "typical horror" stuff for me, with lots of sneaking-around music and stingers and stuff, which is why I sold my CD many years ago.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I only own this one on lp because of the Orbital stuff (at the time it came out I was having fun mixing at the turntables). I really would like to see a definite release on cd for this one.

The amazingly cool opening:



I recently saw the movie again to 'test' my sound system, it has some amazing sound design. Quite a ride and definitely one of my favorite Sam Neill performances (he always has to go crazy at the end of a horror movie).

At the time I thought this was quite a clever and ambitious project and it stills holds up very well in the special fx department.

If you like the haunted spaceship movies I suggest having a look at Pandorum (2009) with Dennis Quaid. Pretty good as these movies go.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

If you like the haunted spaceship movies I suggest having a look at Pandorum (2009) with Dennis Quaid. Pretty good as these movies go.

Yeah, it's not bad. Cool mood. However, the "monsters" were a bit half-limped, I think. But I love these spacehip movies and just wish there were more.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Yeah, it's not bad. Cool mood. However, the "monsters" were a bit half-limped, I think. But I love these spacehip movies and just wish there were more.


Yes, they looked like leftovers from Ghosts of Mars, which was kind of a letdown because Stan Winston (predator) designed them. Event Horizon's director Paul Anderson produced the Pandorum movie and it was filmed in Germany which also attributed to some cool designs and mood. It's not a masterpiece but definitely a good rental.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   AlexCope   (Member)

This movie's one of my absolute all-time favorites. I wasn't even old enough to drive when I saw this at the theater. Had to have a parent take me to it. And it scared the hell out of me. Despite all the obvious gore and violence, there is still an existential dread to it that the mysteries of the infinite have hellish answers that managed to get under my skin. I love the cast, the set design, the mix of different genre elements, and of course Kamen's terrific score, boldly mixing techno and gothic horror.

I'm not wild about the soundtrack presentation, though, as the flow of it has always been a bit off to me. I find the title theme the highlight of the score by far, but that doesn't mean I care to hear it every five minutes and to have Orbital's beats laid into a whole array of Kamen's music that didn't have them featured in the original score. I don't need it to be C&C by any means, but there are some significant cues that in the film, like the reveal of the Gravity Drive, are solely orchestral that have Orbital beats laid over them on the album. And while the Gravity Drive version is skillfully done for what it is, I still would like to have that cue as Kamen wrote it for the score, without it immediately segueing back into the main title for the tenth time.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

I thought Kamen's orchestral score was perfect. There was no need for Orbital's contributions. I am not sure if Kamen was involved in Orbital's involvement. I have treasured memories of spending a day at the Event Horizon sessions and getting to hear many cues orchestra only. Great shame and a shame the film did not get the coverage it deserved at the time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I thought Kamen's orchestral score was perfect. There was no need for Orbital's contributions. I am not sure if Kamen was involved in Orbital's involvement. I have treasured memories of spending a day at the Event Horizon sessions and getting to hear many cues orchestra only. Great shame and a shame the film did not get the coverage it deserved at the time.

Interestingly, I feel that it's the Orbital stuff that MAKES that score, the only interesting aspect for me as a listening experience. In the film, it's pretty cool too.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   Julian K   (Member)

EVENT HORIZON was a very turbulent production, and the film wasn't finished until a matter of days before it was due to open. Paramount had been forced to push the release of TITANIC back to Christmas, and they needed something else to fill the gap, so EVENT HORIZON was rushed into cinemas, for release in mid-August. The studio also wanted to come out before STARSHIP TROOPERS and ALIEN RESURRECTION, and wanted to avoid going head-to-head with the Summer's biggest movie, AIR FORCE ONE.

Don't forget that the soundtrack CD bears the label "Music from and Inspired by", and doesn't even include the closing Prodigy song, which was a very late addition to the movie.

Avoid the recent Blu-ray edition, BTW: something went very wrong in the new HD transfer, and the image is quite distorted.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 4:10 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Avoid the recent Blu-ray edition, BTW: something went very wrong in the new HD transfer, and the image is quite distorted.


Thx 4 the heads up, I was thinking of replacing the special edition DVD with the blu-ray, I guess it'll have to do.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)


Avoid the recent Blu-ray edition, BTW: something went very wrong in the new HD transfer, and the image is quite distorted.


Thx 4 the heads up, I was thinking of replacing the special edition DVD with the blu-ray, I guess it'll have to do.




As far as I know, that release bears the same distortion (the image is a bit too tall). Those with adjustable displays can probably compensate for this by compressing the vertical by just a few clicks...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Is this the case for both the US and European releases? Because I own the R2 2 disc edition... I need to look into this.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)





I also liked Event Horizon, especially the set-up; the first playback of retrieved audio from the ship was masterfully done. Blood-curdling. Eventually, those oft-discussed pedestrian aspects creep in--when the film shifts from alluding to horror to depicting it--and prevent it from becoming a truly excellent film. But there's some remarkable artistry to pluck out of the mix to take with you...and it's always been a video favorite of mine. As far as I know, Orbital was hardly featured in the film, apart from the opening credits and a key moment toward the end. Somehow, sinister techno was the perfect choice to herald the maniacal, diabolical intensity to come.

As for Paul Anderson, his best calibrated film, to me, is 'Resident Evil.' It's exactly what it should have been, what it wanted to be...and his second fusion of disparate scoring talents--Beltrami and Manson--create the perfectly propulsive, Carpenter-esque score to shoot zombies to. It's purely about popcorn stylization, though--which it has in spades--so don't go grading it on originality of premise. I understand Anderson's back for REIV, so I hope Manson/Beltrami are up for another go...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

Is this the case for both the US and European releases? Because I own the R2 2 disc edition... I need to look into this.




Not sure about whether that pertains to the European release. But it definitely affects my R1, 2-disc Special Collectors Edition (03132 is the number on the spine). There was also some speculation whether the color timing was off for this release. But, with a subtle scrunch toward the center on my display, looks and sounds great. Has--possibly--the deepest bass I've ever heard for when the camera pans over the Event Horizon for the first time in DTS... Thunderous!


 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Not sure about whether that pertains to the European release. But it definitely affects my R1, 2-disc Special Collectors Edition (03132 is the number on the spine). There was also some speculation whether the color timing was off for this release. But, with a subtle scrunch toward the center on my display, looks and sounds great. Has--possibly--the deepest bass I've ever heard for when the camera pans over the Event Horizon for the first time in DTS... Thunderous!


I agree about the DTS track, it is amazing. There are quite a lot of big moments and at least sound wise they got it right. I watched this movie to test the subwoofer of my audio system and it really came through on all levels big grin.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2010 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

From the dvdbeaver review of the US Blu-ray of 'Event." Someone wrote in about the vertical stretching:

"NOTE: Carl in email tells us: "This release is still vertically stretched. Maybe on encoding the original 1080p master for the last special edition they just scaled vertically to fit 1.85:1 into 1.78:1, but maybe there is another explanation.

You can tell its stretched in the corridor shot and the screen graphics which should be circular, but look like horizontally narrow ovals instead.
The stretching was not there in the original DVD releases nor in the European DVD releases.

It seems to have occurred when making the last US DVD special edition where this stretching was first appeared. Now the stretching seems to have carried over to the USA blu-ray release.' (Thanks Carl!)"


From here:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews43/event_horizon_blu-ray.htm

Some beautiful captures there...

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2010 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Good to read folks opinions. I'd forgotten that the cd was tagged 'music from AND INSPIRED by' That'll be why i thought that pounding theme, so prominent in the cd, was absent from the actual film. Still think its a great score and one of the few horror projects from Michael Kamen.I remember at one point he was to do EXORCIST: THE BEGINNING. I'd have loved to have heard what he'd of done with that one.
The comments about the stretching of the recent film releases of EVENT were interesting and I remember reading it all when it was first released. Have to say though, apart from some weird optcal stuff on some of the ship interiors at times, you don't really notice it. The Blu-Ray has a fantastic picture and killer soundtrack to boot. I saw this at the cinema when it was first released and one of my biggest memories of it was of two rather loud teenage boys that were acting up a bit during the film.At one point one of them nipped out to the toilet and his mate who was left himself, clearly was a bit freaked out by the film and kept looking away from the screen. Of course when his mate returned he was back to his tough-talking act. Ah...the power of a film. Bet he had a sleepless night!
I saw PANDORUM just recently and really hated it. I was looking forward to another atmospheric piece but the story and the way it panned out just left me totally unmoved. Quite liked the soundtrack which was more the industrial noise type but it didn't really stick with me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2010 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Cooper,

I made a comparison animated gif of overlapping screenshots from the original R2 and the special edition R1 using two screenshots taken from this review http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=61212

You can see the vertical stretching quite clearly.



Now I still need to verify if the region 2 special edition is stretched as well as the region 1.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2010 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

EVENT HORIZON was a very turbulent production, and the film wasn't finished until a matter of days before it was due to open. Paramount had been forced to push the release of TITANIC back to Christmas, and they needed something else to fill the gap, so EVENT HORIZON was rushed into cinemas, for release in mid-August. The studio also wanted to come out before STARSHIP TROOPERS and ALIEN RESURRECTION, and wanted to avoid going head-to-head with the Summer's biggest movie, AIR FORCE ONE.

Don't forget that the soundtrack CD bears the label "Music from and Inspired by", and doesn't even include the closing Prodigy song, which was a very late addition to the movie.

Avoid the recent Blu-ray edition, BTW: something went very wrong in the new HD transfer, and the image is quite distorted.



The european soundtrack - with identical content - has on it's covers - SELECTIONS FROM THE SCORE or something like that

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2010 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

Cooper,

I made a comparison animated gif of overlapping screenshots from the original R2 and the special edition R1 using two screenshots taken from this review http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=61212

You can see the vertical stretching quite clearly.



Now I still need to verify if the region 2 special edition is stretched as well as the region 1.




Cool, looks like you're in the clear with your R2 disc. The distortion isn't as drastic as I thought; is it something you could live with/compensate for with an adjustment or scaling option if you decided to pick up the Blu-ray?

 
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