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 Posted:   Apr 22, 2014 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Glad to see all of the love for Shire and this score in particular. I only know the score from the album, I haven't seen the film, but I've always been curious about it. I'd be interested in an expanded version, though, because what's already there is quite arresting.

Also, the David Shire At the Movies album is a great recording and is worth having even if you have most of the scores represented.


Return to Oz will always hold a special place in my heart - not only is it a brilliant score, it was the first Bay Cities soundtrack release and how I became friends with David. He was one of the greats (and still is) and how producers stopped using him is criminal.

But, never fear, Kritzerland is on the job - and a world premiere Shire is coming. Meanwhile, I have some copies of Return to Oz somewhere if anyone is interested.


Surely I would be interested in the old Cd until the new one comes out. Sounds great.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2014 - 11:39 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Anyone who's interested should drop me an e-mail - I do have to locate where they are, and hope to do so in a day or two.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2014 - 12:35 AM   
 By:   georgefenton   (Member)

Anyone who's interested should drop me an e-mail - I do have to locate where they are, and hope to do so in a day or two.

Do you have any copy of "The man who would be king" by Jarre, too? I´m very interesed in these title too, and I missed these CD when Kritzerland released these masterpiece. My e-mail: redruelloalonso@yahoo.es

Thanks

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2014 - 12:37 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Anyone who's interested should drop me an e-mail - I do have to locate where they are, and hope to do so in a day or two.

Do you have any copy of "The man who would be king" by Jarre, too? I´m very interesed in these title too, and I missed these CD when Kritzerland released these masterpiece. My e-mail: redruelloalonso@yahoo.es

Thanks


I'm not sure about Man Who Would be King but if you drop me an e-mail at kritzerland at gmail dot com, I can check for you.

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2014 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

...It doesn't show Dorothy or other characters, but Ozma herself, if I have it right.

It's actually the witch, Mombi. But yeah, it's a great piece of vintage Struzan poster art! I think the film is great, too -- a beautifully realized dark fantasy, and the segments in Oz are probably truer to the tone and feel of Baum's OZ books than any other production I've seen.

The original RETURN TO OZ album is essential. My favorite David Shire score, bar none. The Kritzerland Shire album is also fantastic, and not just for the magnificent OZ suite. I especially love Maureen McGovern's performance of "It Goes Like It Goes" from NORMA RAE.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2014 - 12:54 AM   
 By:   georgefenton   (Member)

Anyone who's interested should drop me an e-mail - I do have to locate where they are, and hope to do so in a day or two.

Do you have any copy of "The man who would be king" by Jarre, too? I´m very interesed in these title too, and I missed these CD when Kritzerland released these masterpiece. My e-mail: redruelloalonso@yahoo.es

Thanks


I'm not sure about Man Who Would be King but if you drop me an e-mail at kritzerland at gmail dot com, I can check for you.


Thanks a lot!!! E-mail sent to you

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2014 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I love the movie and the score. Let's make this happen!

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2014 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

This extremely similar thread states that the original album master was prepared by David Shire himself, so no need for an expansion.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=19804&forumID=1&archive=1

I am perfectly content with my copy, though a reissue would be nice for those who can't obtain the original release.


Shire prepared the album master for LP...not for CD. It may very well be that he is happy with it as it is, but when did that ever stop any label from getting the rights to expand something???


The CD came out at the same time as the LP, so must assume that he prepared it with both formats in mind, right? I'm pretty sure that the labels would want to get the cooperation of the composer, assuming he/she is still alive, before releasing certain material.

and as haineshisway posted on the other thread:

"The "master" as you call it was prepared with Mr. Shire, so if it's missing anything he knows about it and most likely wanted it missing.


Actually, the LP was issued a considerable time before a CD came out. That isn't to say the idea wasn't germinating at the time, but the CD would offer so much more potential music than an LP.

At the time I bought the LP, Doug Fake told me there were no plans by that label to issue a CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

"Return to Oz" is a heartbreakingly gorgeous score that firmly reinstates David Shire as a major film composer. I have played "RTO' endlessly since the beautiful Intrada release. I applaud Mr Shire for sharing his brilliance with this masterpiece. What a score!!!!

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 11:00 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

"Return to Oz" is a heartbreakingly gorgeous score that firmly reinstates David Shire as a major film composer. I have played "RTO' endlessly since the beautiful Intrada release. I applaud Mr Shire for sharing his brilliance with this masterpiece. What a score!!!!

I couldn't agree more, well said! Ever since Bruce's great CD many years ago, I've played this countless times.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2015 - 12:20 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

This is a fantastic score that I've loved for years. I eagerly snapped up the Intrada release, and it has a little nice music not on the original.

But I have to wonder, if the Intrada release had been my introduction to this score, would I have fallen in love with it the way I did? Honestly, I think Shire produced a fantastic presentation of his score for the original Sonic Atmospheres LP -- it has all of the highlights, it's tight, there's very little repetition. The full score bogs down a bit, and meanders sometimes.

I'm not knocking Intrada's release (which, after all, also contains the original LP program), but there remains something to be said for a well-chosen, tight listening experience.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2015 - 2:10 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

i find that the original album has too much of the vaudeville type music in proportion to dramatic material for me.
i don't mind those rhythymical shifts in the full score, as they're reduced to a much smaller ratio.
anyway this release, like Young Sherlock Holmes last year, is a runaway for my year's best, it's just full of interesting twists and turns.

it's too bad walter murch had his budget cut and locations scuppered by a new studio head, i remember struggling with the film because of how stagey some of the sets felt.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2015 - 5:18 AM   
 By:   Bailey   (Member)

This is a fantastic score that I've loved for years. I eagerly snapped up the Intrada release, and it has a little nice music not on the original.

But I have to wonder, if the Intrada release had been my introduction to this score, would I have fallen in love with it the way I did? Honestly, I think Shire produced a fantastic presentation of his score for the original Sonic Atmospheres LP -- it has all of the highlights, it's tight, there's very little repetition. The full score bogs down a bit, and meanders sometimes.

I'm not knocking Intrada's release (which, after all, also contains the original LP program), but there remains something to be said for a well-chosen, tight listening experience.


This is a great point. I also love the original Oz album (and, of course, this new one), but if the expansion were my only exposure to it, these days I'd probably be finding a way to pare it down. It reminds me when the ET soundtrack first came out, and my youthful disappointment at the missing cues. I later greedily lapped up both expanded CDs and yet...today I find myself turning to that old, original album whenever I want to give this one a spin....

 
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