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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: The Undefeated/Hombre
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2009 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I first saw THE UNDEFEATED in 1992. I had just been in a serious car accident and was wounded from that. I was up late watching TV in my bedroom and caught the beginning of The Undefeated (1969). I was trying to forget my miseries and this movie did the trick. I was immediately swept up by the fact that Duke's Col. John Henry Thomas character was a cult of personality whose men were steadfastly loyal. He only has 10 left of the original 75 men and "two of the them won't make it to Christmas." However, the line I liked best was "They didn't join the army, Joe, they joined me!" Wayne says that to Paul Fix's General Masters character in that small woodframe house in the South. I remember the glass window and the fact that it was pouring outside in the movie. Duke and his surviving troops were going to go out West to round up wild horses to sell to the U.S. Army. ("I sure as Hell ain't givin' 'em to the army!" Duke says to Fix).

Anyway, Montenegro's music was quite good, especially where the Rock Hudson character's loss was concerned like when he must burn his family home down to prevent it from falling into Union hands or worse, the carpetbagger sons of bitches who came down to plunder on the cheap.

It took me awhile to appreciate the rest of the score and for a time I actually regretted buying it! But no more; The Undefeated is a fine western score from a period in the genre's history that witnessed it in its final gasp. 1969 was a great year for Westerns and Hugo Montenegro did a fine job scoring this one.


HOMBRE is another score by a composer I've grown to appreciate, David Rose. His work on Bonanza is legend--at least at my house--and his sensitive, lyrical score for this film is the most memorable part of it, other than Richard Boone's insidious laugh. Richard Boone could kick most actors' asses off the screen so they'd damn well better be ready to deal with it.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2009 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

Rose used to compose for Banacek too.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2009 - 9:00 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

I first saw THE UNDEFEATED in 1992. I had just been in a serious car accident and was wounded from that. I was up late watching TV in my bedroom and caught the beginning of The Undefeated (1969). I was trying to forget my miseries and this movie did the trick. I was immediately swept up by the fact that Duke's Col. John Henry Thomas character was a cult of personality whose men were steadfastly loyal. He only has 10 left of the original 75 men and "two of the them won't make it to Christmas." However, the line I liked best was "They didn't join the army, Joe, they joined me!" Wayne says that to Paul Fix's General Masters character in that small woodframe house in the South. I remember the glass window and the fact that it was pouring outside in the movie. Duke and his surviving troops were going to go out West to round up wild horses to sell to the U.S. Army. ("I sure as Hell ain't givin' 'em to the army!" Duke says to Fix).

Anyway, Montenegro's music was quite good, especially where the Rock Hudson character's loss was concerned like when he must burn his family home down to prevent it from falling into Union hands or worse, the carpetbagger sons of bitches who came down to plunder on the cheap.

It took me awhile to appreciate the rest of the score and for a time I actually regretted buying it! But no more; The Undefeated is a fine western score from a period in the genre's history that witnessed it in its final gasp. 1969 was a great year for Westerns and Hugo Montenegro did a fine job scoring this one.


HOMBRE is another score by a composer I've grown to appreciate, David Rose. His work on Bonanza is legend--at least at my house--and his sensitive, lyrical score for this film is the most memorable part of it, other than Richard Boone's insidious laugh. Richard Boone could kick most actors' asses off the screen so they'd damn well better be ready to deal with it.


I love The Undefeated score. I have no doubts that an Hombre named A. Copland spins around in his grave every time we mention it without mentioning his contribution. Uncredited of course.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2009 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   JimWynorski   (Member)

Although I detested Hugo Montenegro when I was a kid for trashing the Man From Uncle music on his two 'soundtrack' albums, he did do fine scores for THE UNDEFEATED as well as HURRY SUNDOWN(where's the cd for this one RCA?)

 
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