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 Posted:   May 8, 2010 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

Blasting The Final Option on the drive home from work today, I felt like the freakin' King of New York! What a fine, FUNKY score.

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2010 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

MGMHD is screening both films Friday 22nd October.

http://www.mgmhd.com/index.php?day=2010-10-22

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2013 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

just saw this again today on uk t.v.

francois dorleac is a bit special. and wot a voice.
The way she says Arree Parlmurr - are lurrve her.

And we know how good the score is.
i stil love that skidoo track - the fast version of the love theme on the snow jetski.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2013 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

just saw this again today on uk t.v.

francois dorleac is a bit special. and wot a voice.
The way she says Arree Parlmurr - are lurrve her.

And we know how good the score is.
i stil love that skidoo track - the fast version of the love theme on the snow jetski.




Agreed on all counts - just watching the end of it now on ITV4, and then I'll be getting out my Kritzerland release of the score again........ smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2013 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I know it bombed at the box office but I really enjoy Billion Dollar Brain, score and movie.

I agree that Francois Dorleac is wonderful in this film. Sad that she died in a car crash in the south of France in May 1967 soon after filming was completed

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 Posted:   Oct 6, 2013 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Yes, indeed. That comment in the film she makes to Caine in the last reel about losing the possibility of making beautiful babies together (even fictionally), or some such line, echoes much louder in subsequent light.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2013 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

Too bad that the entire score hasn't survived. Not that I'm not grateful that we have what we have.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2013 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

delete

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Just watched BDB for the first time in years, courtesy of itv4, and can offer some fascinating trivia (or pointless pedantry, according to taste).

The film does indeed include a lengthy extract from the "invasion march" from Shostakovich's 7th symphony when Midwinter's army is mobilising. Russell and Bennett would almost certainly in 1967 have equated this part of the symphony with the Nazi invasion of Soviet Russia, which is how it was portrayed by the Soviet authorities at the time. Since then many observers have come to believe that, like much in Shostakovich's music, there was an undercurrent that the relentless march could also hark back to the Soviet's treatment of their own people, including the composer, during the 1930s.

In the context of the film, this unwittingly adds some further depth and irony to the idea that a mad Texan would try to overthrow communism by way of a private army (with, not forgetting, its obvious Nazi symbolism), so that the "good guy" is really the "bad guy".

Also, earlier in the film Palmer is presented to Stok at the end of a performance of Shostakovich's music, which Stok weepingly tells him was written in Leningrad in 1941 during the siege, thus clearly referring to the 7th symphony. However, the final few bars played in this scene are in fact from the finale of the 11th symphony, written a mere 10 years before the film was made. I'm quite sure Ken Russell was aware of this, and used it as a little joke.

I fear quite a few notes about this score - including FSM's as part of the MGM Treasury - will now have to be re-written!

There you are - fascinating to me and probably pointless to almost everyone else...

TG

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I'm a fan of Billion Dollar Brain, both film and score so appreciate your perceptive insights, Chris.

Many thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 5:55 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Sorry, TG, but as I'm only just starting to appreciate DS's talents, I knew nothing (or at least, I didn't know what I did know ...) about his 7th / 11th symphonies on my last viewing of Billion Dollar Brain ... and I'm not likely to watch it again: I disposed of the DVD.

I enjoy the score ... presumably the direct DS quotes to which you refer do not appear on the album ... but, as time passes, I'm enjoying works by DS more. I now have two recordings of each symphony but have yet to play the 11th. The 7th is a great listen but it does take time ... smile

Co-incidentally, I played Roy Budd's Who Dares Wins only a couple of hours ago ... premonition or what?

Mitch.

PS: Xmas gifts received include DA's string quartets 1 - 4 and Carl Nielsen's complete symphonies. All I need now is more time to listen ...

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   Dave Norris   (Member)

I saw the main theme performed on 2 grand piano's (one belayed by RRB-can't remember who played the other one) at the annual 'Filmharmonic' concert in 1976. Fantastic to hear it played live

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

PS: Xmas gifts received include DA's string quartets 1 - 4 and Carl Nielsen's complete symphonies. All I need now is more time to listen ...

I was unaware that David Arnold had written any string quartets - I must look them up. smile

And you have a treat in store with the Nielsen. Is it the Blomstedt cycle? I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.

Thanks for all comments subsequent to my post this morning. A quirky film graced by a superb score.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

PS: Xmas gifts received include DA's string quartets 1 - 4 and Carl Nielsen's complete symphonies. All I need now is more time to listen ...

I was unaware that David Arnold had written any string quartets - I must look them up. smile

And you have a treat in store with the Nielsen. Is it the Blomstedt cycle? I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.

Thanks for all comments subsequent to my post this morning. A quirky film graced by a superb score.

Chris


Ooopps! I had typed CS and managed to cock-up the correction! NY resolution (No.1): check the text before - and after - posting!

The CN cycle: it's the Danish National Symphony Orchestra conducted by Michael Schønwandt ... early 21st Century recordings, both on CD and DVD, the latter being live performances. No.1 in DTS was most enjoyable. Completely new to me ... I hadn't expected anything quite so melodic!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

it's the Danish National Symphony Orchestra conducted by Michael Schønwandt ...

A little off topic ( ! ) but I've just listened to my favourite movement of the cycle (3rd sym, first mvt, with the stunning reverse Sibelius intro and the brutally swirling waltz) as played by Michael Schønwandt (Micky Nice Stick?) on youtube and was well pleased with it. He takes it a little faster than the more conservative Blomstedt, which adds a bit of tension, and there are details that come out differently. This fellow knows his onions (and his Nielsen).

All six symphonies are FULL of melody. I love 'em.

Back on topic, I note that the disc version of the Midwinter's Army track omits the Shostakovich in favour of original Bennett score. I don't know what the story is here but at least it saves the quandary about giving credit.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

I saw the main theme performed on 2 grand piano's (one belayed by RRB-can't remember who played the other one) at the annual 'Filmharmonic' concert in 1976. Fantastic to hear it played live

what a lucky memory dave.

Good insight TG and thanks for clearing all that up, sparked by my alter-ego!!

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)



I just gave it a viewing and there's a shot of Dorleac hurrying by with window panelling between her and the camera. This is the sort of imagery and musical fusion from the sixties that leaves an impression. You can spot it at 11:25.

Edit: Spoiler alert: as the film is more or less contained in it's entirety in compressed form, don't see it all if you haven't yet seen the film.

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Rather ironic that I found this page while googling RRB outside the FSM site. Home run.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/notes/billion_dollar_brain.html

Also

http://www.kritzerland.com/Billion_Option_Notes.pdf

 
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