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Easy to expand King Kong, like this:-
K---------I-----------N-------------G K-----------------O--------------N----------G
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For some tips on how to hear some unavailable cues dialog-and-effects-free on the Region 1 original DVD give me a holler. 
flyman_77@hotmail.com
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For some tips on how to hear some unavailable cues dialog-and-effects-free on the Region 1 original DVD give me a holler.
flyman_77@hotmail.com
Why not just post it here?
Cheers
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Oct 26, 2009 - 11:13 AM
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barryfan1
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Hi Steve (and everyone),
This is the third attempt at posting this, so apologies if it shows up more than once, but there appear to be Gremlins at work...
Long time no (proper) chat. I was also greatly appreciative of FilmScore's King Kong CD, as it has always been a firm favourite of mine, and the sound quality is terrific, (the booklet notes were pretty damn good too, matey).
Of course the only problem with it was the lack of any new material, and as you so rightly say, Barry's King Kong is in dire need of expansion,
as are many of his scores (dare I mention The Black Hole again, as I have already said here, it's been thirty years and we 'aint getting any
younger!). The reasons for this were discussed at the time of the Kong CD's release, but as you say, things have changed now.
So, how would you go about such a release? It could be a new complete CD edition (which would be preferable), or it could be a 'compilation'
CD along the lines of those done of Jerry Goldsmith and Bernard Herrmann material on Prometheus and FilmScore. I think that either would
be viable, especially considering that Intrada has already released second edition's of various CD's including Alien, Rent-A-Cop, Boys From
Brazil, Red Dawn, and Silverado. Varese have also re-released Runaway, and The Burbs, and even FilmScore Monthly have released The
Omega Man twice (thankfully, as I missed the first edition), and Star Trek II (an absolute must-have for me). Only the other day Kritzerland announced a Ltd. edition CD of 2 albums previously released by FilmScore Monthly (Billion Dollar Brain and Who Dares Wins). Of course downloads, or on-demand CDR's (along the same lines as Amazon's 2 CD Hulk) would also be possibilities, direct from whichever label decides to do it.
So going back and re-doing complete editions of noteworthy scores is not only viable, but vital, as expansions often reveal a greater strength
of architecture, and thematic development, as with (keeping it Barry) The Living Daylights for example. As to whether or not such releases
should take precedence over other scores that have never been available at all, is a matter of personal taste. We have to recognise that there
are people who would not worry about a complete Kong, but who would kill for every note of say, The Bodyguard.
Quantities would also be a matter of judging by title, just as any limited edition is, but in the case of on demand CDR's they could be prepared
to meet orders, and could theoretically stay in print indefinitely, as could downloads. I would imagine that CDR's would at least be slightly cheaper than factory pressed CD's?
Personally I would always prefer factory pressed CD's of the original recordings (I'm not a big fan of re-recordings), but professionally mastered CDR's would be better than downloads, and certainly better than nothing.
So, if FilmScore, or anyone else decides to do a complete edition of King Kong (or The Black Hole) put me down for a couple of copies of each!
Thanks for keeping the notion alive Steve.
Cheers,
Mike
PS I'll have to give that rear speaker idea a go, for both Kong and Black Hole.
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How would you expand something like King Kong?
Exactly the way Lalaland are going to do it. 
Pure speculation on your part - or some inside knowledge?
Anyway - this is one of Barry's true Holy Grails left, along with the missing Bonds and THE BLACK HOLE.
And THE DEEP... well, still some true gems to be released... hopefully soon...
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I presume you mean couldn't. (Not could.)
Really? I don't remember that comment. Which doesn't mean it wasn't made. I may have read it and forgotten it. You'll have to point me at it. It'd be surprising and sad of something as recent as if A View To A Kill was lost.
Personally, I thought they didn't even look into it, as they only had time/money to expand a selection of the scores and had already prioritised on the ones they did. (Albeit I think I remember LK saying that if they realised the time/money was so short earlier, they'd have gone after The Man With The Golden Gun in preference to Live And Let Die.)
Either way, I side with you that I'd love to have it.
It still irks me that some of the best, most iconic, most popular film music out there can't get expanded. Still at least LK and co got in quick enough to get some of the more important ones done.
Cheers
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Probably the highest hurdle to overcome is the ownership rights. So many companies have been swallowed up by other companies the actual assets become questionable.
The fear is one of investing money in a reissue (expanded or otherwise) that suddenly is claimed by another party unbenownst hitherto. (Rather archaic phrase!)
We live in an age of technological miracles. The right person (committed to excellence and knowledgeable of procedure) could make a silk purse from the moldering ruins of any remaining sow's ear. The sudden appearance of THE THING from ANOTHER WORLD by Tiomkin after 60 years is a miracle of miracles and it sounds damned great!
On the other hand, the LPs of King Kong and Follow Me Home are, to my ears, quantitatively and qualitatively superior in engineering to the CD releases.
Certainly it is a black art (remastering) because the elusive perfect sound is in the hands of the Chef.
I've learned that, in the long run, almost everything gets released eventually.
Terry Walstrom
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1595587/Barryesques/The%20Detonater.wav
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1595587/Barryesques/Touch.mp3
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