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 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

A perplexing film and, in my opinion, the obvious travails of the production are evident on the screen.

But a courageous effort to get the final work of Heath Ledger seen.

And the score, by the Danna Brothers, is rather good. Big and melodious.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I'm absolutely stoked about this film and its equally appealing score by the Brothers Danna. The kind of re-action it's receiving thus far is on par with what was said about Baron Munchausen, which is probably my second favorite Gilliam film behind the equally number-one entries of Brazil and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

I loved, loved Tideland, but if he could give us another Baron, featuring Heath Ledger's final performance, that would be absolutely exciting... not to mention rather good for Gilliam's future outlook on getting money for his zany productions. Needless to say, this one is going to roll in cash if the distribution is handled well.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   Uwe Sperlich   (Member)

I've seen it back in July when it opened the Munich film festival. For me this was one of the best, most visually amazing, courageous and eye-opening movies I've seen this year. It's only one of two movies I still rave about (the other one being District 9") after having seen them some time ago. If you allow yourself to get into this movie, I'm sure you'll be amazed.
Funny thing is, I didn't pay much attention to the music and usually I DO pay a lot of attention to the music...

Cheers,
Uwe

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   AlexCope   (Member)

I did coverage on this script a few years ago. It had its charm, but boy was it a mess. I had to reread the damn thing just to manage to somehow explain it for the synopsis - and even then I was concerned that it would appear that I was the bad writer. That said I'm curious to see how it turned out. For all I know, it may have gone through major rewrites and turned out a masterpiece.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I did coverage on this script a few years ago. It had its charm, but boy was it a mess. I had to reread the damn thing just to manage to somehow explain it for the synopsis - and even then I was concerned that it would appear that I was the bad writer. That said I'm curious to see how it turned out. For all I know, it may have gone through major rewrites and turned out a masterpiece.

Also... who judges a film by a draft of the script alone?

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Col. Flagg   (Member)

My good friend Anastasia Masaro is the production designer on PARNASSUS, and regardless of the fact that I know her personally, her work is nothing short of stunning.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Uwe Sperlich   (Member)


Also... who judges a film by a draft of the script alone?

Film studio execs I guess....; that's maybe the reason why Gilliam couldn't find a US distributor and had to finance the whole movie independently. At least that's what he said at the Q&A after the screening at the Munich film festival... It cost only $20m and I still can't believe how they could produce such amazing SFX and set decoration with this budget....

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


Film studio execs I guess....; that's maybe the reason why Gilliam couldn't find a US distributor and had to finance the whole movie independently. At least that's what he said at the Q&A after the screening at the Munich film festival...


Well, good point, but I mean critically and... you know, intellectually?

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   Uwe Sperlich   (Member)


Film studio execs I guess....; that's maybe the reason why Gilliam couldn't find a US distributor and had to finance the whole movie independently. At least that's what he said at the Q&A after the screening at the Munich film festival...


Well, good point, but I mean critically and... you know, intellectually?


I could burn my feet here, but do you really think film studio execs worry about critical approval and intellectual value? I seriously doubt that when I look at this year's release slate of the major studios...

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


I could burn my feet here, but do you really think film studio execs worry about critical approval and intellectual value? I seriously doubt that when I look at this year's release slate of the major studios...


Again, I'm not talking about the studios here, man.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I'm looking forward to this film. Baron Munchausen is still my 3rd favorite film of all time, and though Tideland did nothing for me (Nutsie, can you explain its value to me? I must have missed something), this tale looks perfectly suited to Gilliam's imagination.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   AlexCope   (Member)

Nuts, I wasn't judging the film itself. You're right - that would be silly. My critique was simply of the script that I read, and at no point did I extend my judgment to anything else. I hope it's a good movie. Sorry for interrupting the Gilliam fun parade.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 4:27 PM   
 By:   franz_conrad   (Member)

I hope it's a good film. There's only one Terry Gilliam film I haven't seen since 12 MONKEYS (that was TIDELAND), and there's none I've liked.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I'm looking forward to this film. Baron Munchausen is still my 3rd favorite film of all time, and though Tideland did nothing for me (Nutsie, can you explain its value to me? I must have missed something), this tale looks perfectly suited to Gilliam's imagination.

Well, I have a particular affection for films dealing with the "growing up" -- so to speak -- of young girls. Films like Tideland, Spirit of the Beehive, The Fall, Labyrinth, the good parts of Pan's Labyrinth... they all speak to me in such a weird way. Who knows? perhaps I was always meant to be a little girl.

But for a real eye-opener, watch it with an actual woman. My favorite ex (one that I spent months -- hell, probably going on years now -- pining over) watched this with me after I began initially fawning over it. Long story short, she loves it too. I've watched it with a few other of the fairer sex, and they've all said nothing but good things.

Though I think I made this same statement for Joan Hue, and she didn't agree and didn't like it. Take it for what you will though.

In my opinion, it's his most Fellini-esque. Like Fellini Satyricon meeting Nights of Cabiria except Cabiria is a little girl whose dad is a drug-addicted ex-rocker. While beautifully surrealistic, it's also tragically neo-realistic. Mychael Danna's score even reeks of these characterizations. Just a great triumph of film.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I hope it's a good film. There's only one Terry Gilliam film I haven't seen since 12 MONKEYS (that was TIDELAND), and there's none I've liked.

While I'd disagree with you about Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas -- which I can actually understand your dislike of, though I think is an American masterpiece -- I should add that you really need to see Tideland. On a dark night. Perhaps during a bout of loneliness.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2009 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   franz_conrad   (Member)

While I'd disagree with you about Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas -- which I can actually understand your dislike of, though I think is an American masterpiece -- I should add that you really need to see Tideland. On a dark night. Perhaps during a bout of loneliness.

As most nights are dark, and loneliness is a recurring malady, I predict the recommended circumstances shall frequently present themselves!

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2009 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Any news about the score CD release or it will remain unreleased?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2009 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

I always thought Terry Gilliam resents the fact he didn't live in the 18th century, as many of his films seem to feature that period.

He also loves extremely convoluted stories.

He'd have been perfect to make a film of the 1001 NIGHTS; his kind of vision would have made that an amazing tour de force.

Likewise, I'm surprised he never attempted to film Voltaire's CANDIDE; it would have been a natural for him: earthquakes, invasions, the Inquisition, the New World, El Dorado, Venice, Constantinople... Everything in fact that Gilliam holds most dear.

And, if he'd filmed the Bernstein musical of CANDIDE, that would have been even wilder.... (At least the Lillian Hellman book would have made for a great frame for Gilliam's work. Gilliam's original stories seem to go all over the place....)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2009 - 1:42 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

My good friend Anastasia Masaro is the production designer on PARNASSUS, and regardless of the fact that I know her personally, her work is nothing short of stunning.


Couldn't agree more Saul. The technical side, and the 'look' of the movie is remarkable.

As another poster has remarked. Are there no plans for a score release?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2015 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Finally saw this film and LOVED it. One of Gilliam´s very best.

And Danna´s score is marvelous, too!

 
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