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 Posted:   Aug 18, 2009 - 7:41 PM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)

It's one of the best scores Horner has written, simply by the fact the score is so filled with Hornerisms but it doesn't try to slap you in the face multiple times with them. What I mean it is you can particularly pick what is going to happen next, because you've heard it before in lives past (style wise). The main theme is underrated, lush yet darker and intimate version of Legends of the Fall. It's flushing out in the long finale is quite beautiful. The action music is also outstanding for the most part, with the metal chairs adding a percussive novelty (as opposed to drum loops). "Rescue and Breakout" and the first part of "The Long Ride Home" are some of the best action cues (if not the best) that James has written since The Perfect Storm and earlier.

However, the album is feels 10-15 minutes too long, with the brooding ethnic cues in the middle taking the blame.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2009 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

I agree! For me it is the last Horner score I enjoy... Lot's of good things in this score... very enjoyable.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2009 - 9:19 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)


However, the album is feels 10-15 minutes too long, with the brooding ethnic cues in the middle taking the blame.


Agreed. There's a lot to like about this score, but the album is just too damn long. If they had pruned it down to about 50 minutes, it would have been the perfect length (I feel the same way about David Arnold's Casino Royale on CD).

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2009 - 3:46 AM   
 By:   voiced   (Member)

I remember being unimpressed with it when watching the film years ago, but keep meaning to give the CD a listen so I will - you've inspired me as I love 'Legends of the Fall' & 'Perfect Storm'!

Listened to 'We're Back' the other day, very underrated Horner gem! 'Transformation' is a great cue.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)

I remember being unimpressed with it when watching the film years ago, but keep meaning to give the CD a listen so I will - you've inspired me as I love 'Legends of the Fall' & 'Perfect Storm'!

Listened to 'We're Back' the other day, very underrated Horner gem! 'Transformation' is a great cue.


To be fair, the film is terrible.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

I discovered this score this summer and found myself enjoying it greatly.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 6:51 PM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

I really enjoy this cue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75G5LN0jSIA

A wonderfully dramatic and atmospheric score.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Wonderful score, good stuff.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 7:41 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I think it's definitely up there with Braveheart and Legends of the Fall as one of Horner's best epic adventure scores. Definitely in my top 10 Horner scores. "Rescue & Breakout" is one of the finest action cues he's ever written and the main themes for this score are simply gorgeous and are absolutely perfect for sweeping cinematic landscapes and vistas, as well as the (admittedly undercooked and under-realized) drama and narrative of the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2014 - 12:10 AM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

I've always enjoyed the featurette on this one. Nothing you haven't heard a million times from Howard for Horner but there's quite a bit of footage from the sessions

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07hxlzLRc5Q

I've always assumed Horner and Howard had some kind of falling out on this project as Cinderella Man was Howard's next project and had Thomas Newman on board. Horner in particular looks like he's sitting there stewing during the interview.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2017 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

This doesn't get a lot of attention. I really like it. It combines the lush romantic writing with the tense shakuhachi suspense cues and a fair bit of ethnic elements.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2017 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I started to lose interest in Horner around this time, so I never heard it. (or seen the film) Guess I need to give this a try.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2017 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Wasn't there a Goldsmith quote where he said it was the first thing he'd heard by Horner that he actually liked?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2017 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Never heard that Goldsmith quote before.
Anyone know what actually caused Howard to fall out with Horner on this film?

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2017 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

A highly enjoyable score which holds you in anticipation for the glorious melodic passages. I used to play this one a lot but find, to my surprise, that it has been a long time since last aired.

So thank you, Thor, for resurrecting the thread and bringing the title back to mind.

Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2017 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

Never heard that Goldsmith quote before.
Anyone know what actually caused Howard to fall out with Horner on this film?


I seem to remember Horner disagreeing with Howard on the type of film it was. Howard said it was a western. Horner disagreed and did not want to score it as such.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2017 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

Never heard that Goldsmith quote before.
Anyone know what actually caused Howard to fall out with Horner on this film?


I seem to remember Horner disagreeing with Howard on the type of film it was. Howard said it was a western. Horner disagreed and did not want to score it as such.


Am I right? Howard never used Horner again.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2017 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Am I right? Howard never used Horner again.

His loss.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2017 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Apparently Howard and Horner never lost touch and were starting plans to work together again. Or so say the comments about the content of this full interview (to be fair, I've heard none of it--I'm going off the comments).

http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/ron-howard-james-horner/

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2017 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Giving it a chance again and there's a lot to like, but damn, the parts that sound like Titanic are SO distracting =/

 
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