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It's a work of art. One of the very best scores Bernstein ever wrote.
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I wasn't a big fan, I thought John Barry's was just a tad better.
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Sep 8, 2013 - 12:25 PM
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Hurdy Gurdy
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I think this score is, to my ears at least, the greatest rejected score I've ever heard!
I know people may counter with North's 2001, Yared's Troy or maybe Morricone's What Dreams May Come (just to name 3) and they could be right too, but this is one monumental work by Elmer B.
I would guess the producers temped some of it with Horner's Braveheart, as Bernstein strives to emulate it sometimes with the pipes, but in all other instances he delivers one of his most thrilling, poetic and pulse pounding scores ever!
It just flows with beauty and brilliance.
I must admit, I picked up the set mainly after hearing the suite for Natty Gann that was performed somewhere or other, that a mate passed to me on DVD. It sounded 'westerny' enough for me to take a gamble on, plus I figured his rejected Gangs Of NY score would be EPIC!!!
I didn't even consider this score when I purchased the set (I'd heard the film was a stinker and I listened to the Barry score once or twice, but it never really excited me that much).
I can understand why the producers tried their last throw of the dice with Barry, but sometimes a stinker will always be a stinker, film-wise at least. But Barry fans got a Dances With Wolves sequel score and thanks to Rob Townson and Varese, I now have a true thing of beauty. I also think the end point Townson created between disc 3 and 4 is spot-on. It almost sounds like an old exit music/entr'acte thingy the way the last track builds and builds before closing. Perfect!
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Sep 8, 2013 - 2:51 PM
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edwzoomom
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I think this score is, to my ears at least, the greatest rejected score I've ever heard!
I know people may counter with North's 2001, Yared's Troy or maybe Morricone's What Dreams May Come (just to name 3) and they could be right too, but this is one monumental work by Elmer B.
I would guess the producers temped some of it with Horner's Braveheart, as Bernstein strives to emulate it sometimes with the pipes, but in all other instances he delivers one of his most thrilling, poetic and pulse pounding scores ever!
It just flows with beauty and brilliance.
I must admit, I picked up the set mainly after hearing the suite for Natty Gann that was performed somewhere or other, that a mate passed to me on DVD. It sounded 'westerny' enough for me to take a gamble on, plus I figured his rejected Gangs Of NY score would be EPIC!!!
I didn't even consider this score when I purchased the set (I'd heard the film was a stinker and I listened to the Barry score once or twice, but it never really excited me that much).
I can understand why the producers tried their last throw of the dice with Barry, but sometimes a stinker will always be a stinker, film-wise at least. But Barry fans got a Dances With Wolves sequel score and thanks to Rob Townson and Varese, I now have a true thing of beauty. I also think the end point Townson created between disc 3 and 4 is spot-on. It almost sounds like an old exit music/entr'acte thingy the way the last track builds and builds before closing. Perfect!
Kevin, it is all your fault....I just spent more money! Just kidding of course. When I read this revived thread, of course I had to go looking for samples of this score. Well, that lead to me to the 4 cd release of Gangs of New York / The Journey of Natty Gann / The Scarlet Letter. I am certainly familiar with Gangs and Natty Gann but was not aware of Bernstein's rejected scores. I liked what I heard and found a new copy of the Varese release on Amazon and, well you know the rest!
Kevin, I thank you for reviving the thread as I "discovered" some new music but my pocketbook does not thank you - wink wink! 
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"Kevin, I thank you for reviving the thread as I "discovered" some new music but my pocketbook does not thank you - wink wink! smile"
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Haha, no worries edwz, you can rage at me now and thank me later! 
Just make sure you come back after you've luxuriated in all that Elmery goodness and let us know what you think of it.
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I had to add to the chorus of approval to this set - I used to love Bernstein, but find
I 'have enough' of his work now, and he went into some areas I never really dug....
but, even the armchair EB fan should have this set. There is bound to be at LEAST
one part of it you will love.
For me, it's Scarlet Letter - really an elaborate, lengthy, thematic, Golden Age masterpiece.
I think it was Kev that spoke highly of this one above, so I'll just concur.
GONY is also very good, but the mono sound is off putting, and there are far too many
tracks. Don't get me wrong, elated to have it, but hoped for more. Still shouldn't have
been rejected :-/
Natty Gann is terrific, but I prefer Horner's effort.
Townson's notes/tribute booklet is also a win, and the packaging overall is very
classy.
Hope you like it edwzoomom, if not, the fellas will be eating crow here ;-)
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Sep 13, 2013 - 4:31 PM
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edwzoomom
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Makes me wish composers had a clause in their contract that
guaranteed issue on cd if their score is rejected. I don't think I've
met a rejected score I didn't like, and to think that so many are just
languishing - all that work, time spent, Elmer writing this amazing and
for him, very lengthy work, never to be heard. No wonder it's such a
touchy subject.....
Told ya so, edwzoomom
Goblin, you can surely say you told me so. I was thinking the same thing as I listened to this score a second time. Imagine investing all your time, talent, effort and creativity in a project like this and then having "rejected" stamped on it. As I said before, I have seen the movie a few times, have the Barry score and can definitely imagine hearing this score throughout the movie. I just feel blessed that this score was released!
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