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 Posted:   Jun 23, 2009 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)

It's a rather nice novelty to have the LSO perform the album (if only they could have done the original score!). You could say that it's slow and contemplative, or you could say that it's lethargic in its pacing of non important sections (look at parts of the suite or the epilogue). The piano recording of The Portait (performed by the devil himself) is another novelty that arguably adds the most to the album.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2009 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I agree Kevin, especially about the Portrait track. When the film was released I was so sad that it wasn't included, then I found one of the many Titanic type releases from other people that had a piano version on it, I was in HEAVEN.

I love the score. There is one theme that isn't on either of the 2 CD's, it's like an older Rose theme. One of my favorites is the ending when Rose goes to sleep, man I would love to have that track!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2009 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

The first time was bad enough. Please don't send us back.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2009 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

One of my favorites is the ending when Rose goes to sleep, man I would love to have that track!

That cue is just "Rose" edited together with a pipe-less version of "Unable To Stay, Unwilling To Leave" with an additional Tony Hinnigan solo at the end.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2009 - 12:44 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

The one that our own Bruce Kimmel is raking in the dough from featured the best piano recording of "The Portrait," and I'm counting Horner's own Back To Titanic version.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2009 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I have several relevant CDs, namely the six in the middle of this picture:



No one loves TITANIC more than I do and I play the main CD often, but I can't get into BACK. The overlay of dialog tracks onto some of the music didn't work for me and I felt it bordered on schlock, or at least kitch.

The Bruce Kimmel CD, TITANIC: THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION, is recommended. I strongly second the opinion that this CD's piano solo is superior to the one on BACK. Even the sound quality is better.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2009 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I agree Kevin, especially about the Portrait track. When the film was released I was so sad that it wasn't included, then I found one of the many Titanic type releases from other people that had a piano version on it, I was in HEAVEN.

I was there too. I was the straight guy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2009 - 6:51 PM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jun 24, 2009 - 9:33 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

I have several relevant CDs, namely the six in the middle of this picture:



No one loves TITANIC more than I do and I play the main CD often, but I can't get into BACK. The overlay of dialog tracks onto some of the music didn't work for me and I felt it bordered on schlock, or at least kitch.


Do yourself a favor and track down the DTS 5.1 version of it. Hell, I'll mail you a copy!

The one common criticism of the DTS version (which is the same mix as the hybrid SACD but obviously this one doesn't require SACD playback) is the minimal LFE and surround channel output, but I made my own version boosting the gain on those channels (had to break down each track into its six channels each first)to make the mix more evenly balanced, you can actually hear those rears and the LFE.

Then, I went a step further and made separate downmixed stereo (the mix is better than the standard stereo CD), as well as a 'center channel only' CD - so the whole score plays without synths - and a 'surround channel only' CD.

I love listening to the different channels of 5.1 mixes, so making those separated audio discs was a treat.

I did one more thing:

I took the surround mix of "My Heart Will Go On", which uses strings only in the rear channels and mixed it with 'The Portrait' to make an instrumental, Celine-less version of the song.

I might love TITANIC's score a bit more than you do, though I won't dispute your love of the subject overall...though I did make an extended version of the film on DVD using all the deleted scenes...big grin

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2009 - 9:46 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

ZapBrannigan you crack me up, cause I had ALMOST all of those things. When the movie came out I became a Titanic junkie and had almost all of those and I still own all the CD's. I love them all. Varese did one, I liked a lot and when I heard they were releasing a second one I was so excited.

DO you remember back then talk that Horner was going to do like tour of either his titanic music or something else? I can't remember what, but there was talk of something.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2009 - 10:20 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)


DO you remember back then talk that Horner was going to do like tour of either his titanic music or something else? I can't remember what, but there was talk of something.


In an interview, Horner said there was to be a tour beginning with a Hollywood Bowl concert but Big Business and corporate sponsors - hangers on looking to cash in on the Titanic craze just overwhelmed everything. It was to be an elaborate show with effects and so on as well, and apparently tickets for it weren't selling as much to pay for everything.

 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2009 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

ZapBrannigan you crack me up, cause I had ALMOST all of those things. When the movie came out I became a Titanic junkie and had almost all of those and I still own all the CD's. I love them all. Varese did one, I liked a lot and when I heard they were releasing a second one I was so excited.

I became a Titanic junkie around 1980, after seeing SOS TITANIC (David Warner, Susan Saint James) and reading A NIGHT TO REMEMBER. When they found the wreck in '85 I was in orbit, and of course the Cameron movie and its music blew me away. But I already had most of the stuff except for the CDs by then.

 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2009 - 1:51 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

DO you remember back then talk that Horner was going to do like tour of either his titanic music or something else? I can't remember what, but there was talk of something.

In an interview, Horner said there was to be a tour beginning with a Hollywood Bowl concert but Big Business and corporate sponsors - hangers on looking to cash in on the Titanic craze just overwhelmed everything. It was to be an elaborate show with effects and so on as well, and apparently tickets for it weren't selling as much to pay for everything.


That doesn't surprise me. Titanic Madness was taking hold at that point, ca. early 1998. There was even a group of investors planning to build a new ocean liner that would look exactly like the Titanic on the outside but be more modern inside due to practical and legal necessities. The project was featured in POPULAR MECHANICS if I recall, but reality re-surfaced at some point and the thing never got built.

 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2009 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Do yourself a favor and track down the DTS 5.1 version of it. Hell, I'll mail you a copy!

The one common criticism of the DTS version (which is the same mix as the hybrid SACD but obviously this one doesn't require SACD playback) is the minimal LFE and surround channel output, but I made my own version boosting the gain on those channels (had to break down each track into its six channels each first)to make the mix more evenly balanced, you can actually hear those rears and the LFE.

Then, I went a step further and made separate downmixed stereo (the mix is better than the standard stereo CD), as well as a 'center channel only' CD - so the whole score plays without synths - and a 'surround channel only' CD.

I love listening to the different channels of 5.1 mixes, so making those separated audio discs was a treat.

I did one more thing:

I took the surround mix of "My Heart Will Go On", which uses strings only in the rear channels and mixed it with 'The Portrait' to make an instrumental, Celine-less version of the song.

I might love TITANIC's score a bit more than you do, though I won't dispute your love of the subject overall...though I did make an extended version of the film on DVD using all the deleted scenes...big grin


I'm impressed, even if I don't understand the technical stuff. I'm afraid I listen in simple two-channel stereo, usually on my iPod. I don't have a fancy sound system. But your reverse engineering has created whole new versions of the score. Very cool.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2009 - 4:22 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)


I'm impressed, even if I don't understand the technical stuff. I'm afraid I listen in simple two-channel stereo, usually on my iPod. I don't have a fancy sound system. But your reverse engineering has created whole new versions of the score. Very cool.


At the very least, I could send you a few samples for your iPod to enjoy. It's interesting to hear what's not there versus what is in the different channels.

For example, 'Southampton' is just percussion and a soft click track during the synth choir moments in the first half, and a few woodwinds in the second half. The rear channels feature heavier percussion on a slight delay, and the chimes that are dead center on the regular CD actually start in the center and rise behind in the rears. Drop me a line at my email address in my profile, and I'll send you some tracks of these.

 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2009 - 4:43 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Drop me a line at my email address in my profile, and I'll send you some tracks of these.

Thanks! I'm at work right now, where private email is blocked for security reasons, but I will be back on my own computer in a couple of days and I've made a note to contact you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2009 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   vorlonb4   (Member)

I wondered about this CD after the first one and subsequently went for it.

It's really 5/10 stuff and to my mind for collectors of the film only. Yes the piano little bit is nice,The Titanic suite on track 1 is good and i really love the 6: Building panic which wasn't used anywhere else on the 1st cd.

Other than that however and the Irish party on track 2 it really didn;t impress me, and paying £13 for a disc that ' doesn't really impress me' didn't impress me much.

In fact I've played the whole thing three times, what does that tell you.


 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2009 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Thanks for the nice comments about my Titanic CD. I loved doing it and Randy Miller did a fantastic job conducting. And to give the pianist credit, it's the brilliant Terry Trotter, with whom I've done a whole slew of jazz albums.

 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2009 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yes, he of the famous Sketches On Star Wars album, a staple of many a mix of mine back then. "May The Force Be With You" was the perfect final track.

 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2009 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I have several relevant CDs, namely the six in the middle of this picture:



No one loves TITANIC more than I do and I play the main CD often, but I can't get into BACK. The overlay of dialog tracks onto some of the music didn't work for me and I felt it bordered on schlock, or at least kitch.


Do yourself a favor and track down the DTS 5.1 version of it. Hell, I'll mail you a copy!

The one common criticism of the DTS version (which is the same mix as the hybrid SACD but obviously this one doesn't require SACD playback) is the minimal LFE and surround channel output, but I made my own version boosting the gain on those channels (had to break down each track into its six channels each first)to make the mix more evenly balanced, you can actually hear those rears and the LFE.

Then, I went a step further and made separate downmixed stereo (the mix is better than the standard stereo CD), as well as a 'center channel only' CD - so the whole score plays without synths - and a 'surround channel only' CD.

I love listening to the different channels of 5.1 mixes, so making those separated audio discs was a treat.

I did one more thing:

I took the surround mix of "My Heart Will Go On", which uses strings only in the rear channels and mixed it with 'The Portrait' to make an instrumental, Celine-less version of the song.

I might love TITANIC's score a bit more than you do, though I won't dispute your love of the subject overall...though I did make an extended version of the film on DVD using all the deleted scenes...big grin


NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD!!!!!!!!!

It's OK, as I've wanted to do something like that with another surround mix (Chicago II), but just don't have the capability.

 
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